> On Sep 21, 2021, at 1:12 PM, Pierre Joye <pierre....@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 21, 2021, 11:56 PM Mike Schinkel <m...@newclarity.net > <mailto:m...@newclarity.net>> wrote: > > On Sep 21, 2021, at 3:45 AM, Pierre Joye <pierre....@gmail.com > > <mailto:pierre....@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 11:21 AM Mike Schinkel <m...@newclarity.net > > <mailto:m...@newclarity.net>> wrote: > > > >> Honestly, at first I confused `Deque` with `Dequeue` and was wondering why > >> we would name a class with a verb? It wasn't until Rowan's comment that I > >> realized `Deque` is an abbreviation. > >> > >> Which begs the question: how many other PHP developers will know computer > >> science terms like this well enough to know `Deque` is a noun when they > >> see it, and more importantly how many PHP developers will think to search > >> for `Deque` when they need a queue? > > > > Unlike the Vector name which is really confusing as it is not a > > vector, Deque is actually relatively known for anyone needing a double > > ended queue. It even comes first in google search, wikipedia or java > > implementations, which matches this implementation. > > Being able to google what Deque means is one thing, but thinking to search > for it when you don't know it exists *and* you don't know that Deque is the > term you would need to be searching for. > > > We expect our > > users to know all weird names of different patterns, I trust them to > > be able to learn what a Deque is. :) > > So we expect PHP developers to have a computer science background? Maybe you > are assuming everyone minimally has your expertise? Have we as a group > decided to forsake beginners? > > > It is not what I was trying to explain. > > However if one looks at the php documentation looking for specific things > like these, the Deque will be there. > > So I am not expecting anyone to have a CS background (btw, I don't), however > I do have a minimal trust in users reading the docs and doing a minimum of > research.
And what I was trying to explain is that given my past experience working with other PHP developers, I believe that trust is misplaced for many. And why make it harder than it needs to be? For PHP, jargon is Bad(tm), IMHO anyway. -Mike