Derick, On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 9:09 PM Derick Rethans <der...@php.net> wrote:
> That's where I disagree already. The nullable intersections RFC isn't a > refinement, it's a new feature. > And if I had voting powers, that would be exactly my reasoning for voting no: "Not a Refinement RFC". However, whether a Refinement RFC can be proposed or not is up to the Release Manager of the targeting version, which is something that is included in the RFC to formalize what already has precedence. --------------------------------------------- Tobias, On Tue, Aug 24, 2021, 21:00 Tobias Nyholm <tobias.nyh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The issue I have with adding more guidelines for RFCs “post feature > freeze” is that it removes decision power from the release managers. Ie, > one way of reading this proposal is that we don’t trust the release > managers to decide what to include and not to include in a release. I'm interested in understanding how the proposal gives this impression because others may end up in a similar conclusion and that is far from the intention. Is there a specific part of the text that makes it look like release managers are being stripped of any power? In my perspective, the only way of reading this RFC is: - RFC Authors: don't be afraid of attempting a last-minute change. Just talk to the Release Managers first as it will affect their work. - Release Managers: if a code change looks like it needs an RFC and it will clash with feature freeze, you have the power to provide a speedy RFC by allowing a Refinement RFC. - Voters: When voting on a Refinement RFC, be aware that it may move slightly faster due to time sensitivity and judge for yourself the merits of the proposal. > To allow the release managers to have this decision power is not a > “violation of voter rights”, that is just a silly argument. > Well, thank you? > Maybe we should hear what the current and previous release managers think? > Do they feel like they need more policies around their work? > > // Tobias Gabriel Caruso, release manager of 8.0 has shown his support on this discussion in the first reply of this thread. -- Marco Aurélio Deleu
