Trying not to drown the list while some RFCs are getting worked out and 
preparing for 8.0.

Quick update:

1. Walking through Nikita’s instructions - writing about it here: 
https://joshbruce.dev/essays/software-development/php-falsifiable-objects 
<https://joshbruce.dev/essays/software-development/php-falsifiable-objects>

2. I agree some type of working concept should be a thing.

3. Have some other projects taking precedent, any assistance on implementation 
would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,
Josh

> On Jul 22, 2020, at 7:49 AM, Larry Garfield <la...@garfieldtech.com> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Josh Bruce wrote:
>> Learning more everyday. This thread will be the “official thread” - 
>> other related threads have been added to the RFC (including one from 11 
>> years ago): https://bit.ly/php-0002-rfc <https://bit.ly/php-0002-rfc>
>> 
>> Created fork - with PR on fork to explore and leave notes without 
>> hitting the mailing list with every little thing: 
>> https://github.com/joshbruce/php-src/pull/1 
>> <https://github.com/joshbruce/php-src/pull/1>
>> 
>> Will be letting this cool down for the recommended two weeks while I 
>> learn the things and PHP 8 is prepared for release.
>> 
>> Not sure if this should be put up for a vote before or after the 
>> implementation based on what I’ve read so. Seems the recommendation is 
>> the vote first - unless sample implementation seems like it would be 
>> helpful. I think it would; so, will proceed on the implementation 
>> course pending feedback.
>> 
>> Thanks again for all the feedback, questions, and concerns!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Josh
> 
> I'd say it's bad form to call a vote on something without at least a partial 
> implementation and a path to finish the implementation.  Otherwise, even if 
> it passes it may not happen and that's just all kinds of confusing.  The code 
> doesn't have to be perfect, but at least enough to demonstrate it can be done 
> and won't cause a 50% performance regression.  That also gives voters 
> confidence that if the RFC passes the code will actually get completed by the 
> people that proposed it, rather than just expecting someone else to magically 
> do it for them.
> 
> --Larry Garfield
> 
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