On Mon, Mar 16, 2020, at 6:57 AM, Nicolas Grekas wrote:
> Le lun. 16 mars 2020 à 12:52, Máté Kocsis <kocsismat...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> 
> > >
> > > The other one is the recently declined
> > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/object-initializer. As it basically works by
> > > first
> > > creating the object normally (including a possible constructor call), and
> > > then assigning the specified properties, this would not be compatible
> > with
> > > readonly properties that have defaults. Other implementation approaches
> > are
> > > possible though, but may not be easily reconcilable with the need to also
> > > call the constructor.
> > >
> >
> > I think what I'd expect from a possible object initializer feature is that
> > it
> > can't overwrite "write-once" properties with default values. (?)
> >
> > However, I'm ok to to remove support for default values because of the
> > possible
> > problems outlined (confusion for end users, uncertainty how it'd work
> > together with new
> > features etc.). It seems that the replies are more on this side, so let's
> > be a bit more
> > conservative than I originally wanted to be, so that we have more freedom
> > later.
> >
> > Actually, I have already updated the RFC with this. Also, I made some
> > clarifications
> > in connection with serialization and the usage of resources.
> >
> 
> 
> I repeat what I wrote before but all those problems would disappear if we
> were to bind the proposal to visibility:
> https://externals.io/message/108675#108753
> 
> We could even consider splitting "read" and "write" in two separate
> keywords, each bound to visibility, isn't it?

How would 2 separate keywords work, syntactically/visually?  I can see how it 
would solve a larger cluster of use cases, but I'm not sure what the code would 
look like. :-)

--Larry Garfield

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