On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 6:44 PM Rowan Tommins <rowan.coll...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> There is currently an odd inconsistency when using the decrement
> operator on a null variable:
>
> $a = null; $a=$a+1; // int(1)
> $a = null; $a+=1; // int(1)
> $a = null; ++$a; // int(1)
>
> $a = null; $a=$a-1; // int(-1)
> $a = null; $a-=1; // int(-1)
> $a = null; --$a; // null
>
> I would like to propose changing this behaviour for PHP 8, so that --$a
> would give int(-1), as I believe it is simply a long-standing bug.
>
>
> This has been raised as a bug at least three times [1][2][3] but closed
> as documented behaviour / too much of a BC break. It is documented in
> the manual, but with no explanation of why it should work that way. [4]
>
> I would be interested in any explanations of why it might be intended
> behaviour, or ways in which people might be relying on the current
> behaviour.
>
> A proposal to change the behaviour was included in a wider RFC about
> standardising increment and decrement behaviour, but it never got beyond
> draft status. [5] I would prefer not to reopen that wider debate, but
> focus on this single issue.
>
> As far as I can see, the change would be to add a "case IS_NULL" branch
> to decrement_function in zend_operators.c to match the one in
> increment_function. [6]
>
>
> I will happily write up an RFC to formalise this, but wanted to gather
> people's immediate thoughts first.
>

Principally in favor of this change, I do think that ++ and -- should
behave consistently if nothing else. We might want to consider giving the
same treatment to false/true as well, which should be interpreted as 0/1.
That is $foo++ / $foo-- should behave the same ways as $foo+=1, $foo-=1 for
null, true, false. It seems odd to single out only "null" here.

Additionally I would suggest a notice when trying to increment arrays,
resources and objects, rather than just silently doing nothing. As long as
it's just a notice, this should have minimal BC implications.

Nikita

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