Given this orientation, can we also have this debated once more? https://wiki.php.net/rfc/callable-types
Right now, I am using 7.4.2 in production and in my next book and I cannot explain how it feels good to have those types but along with the loosely typed freedom. That's the killer advantage of PHP and IMHO version 8 will be quite popular due to the 7.4; On Sat, 25 Jan 2020 at 16:12, Rowan Tommins <rowan.coll...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 25/01/2020 00:12, Mike Schinkel wrote: > > > So saying "use a static analyzer" is IMO just pointing out an overall > > weakness that PHP can't automatically do static analysis on its own. > > I'd just like to repeat that you and Rasmus are in agreement here. He > didn't say "PHP doesn't need to change because static analyzers exist", > he said: > > > it would be amazing to have a static analyzer built into PHP > > ... but that is a huge task and goes way beyond just this particular > check. > > Choosing whether that analysis runs automatically during server startup, > or as a separate command-line script, is just one detail among many. It > probably wouldn't make much difference to the rest of the analysis code, > and it might even make sense for it to support both modes. For instance, > it might be optional for command-line scripts, so you could have options > for "analyse and run", "run only", and "analyse only". > > > > One of the main strengths of PHP — and IMO one of the reasons for its > incredibly marketshare — is the ease with which PHP code can be written, > tested, and deployed. > > And that ease translated to ubiquity. > > Adding a recommended build step to that in order to gain correctness > weakens that value proposition and threatens future ubiquity as other > language improve. > > Yes, the convenience of having something run automatically is definitely > worth considering, as long as it doesn't introduce new delays and rules > that get in people's way. > > It partly depends what kind of checks were being done, I guess, and > therefore how much time it would take to run, and how much of a project > it would need to analyse at once. > > Regards, > > -- > Rowan Tommins (né Collins) > [IMSoP] > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >
