I decided to create a new thread since I was diverging the topic.
> On Nov 18, 2019, at 5:36 AM, MichaĆ Brzuchalski > <michal.brzuchal...@gmail.com> wrote: > Currently, arrays all together with rest of scalar types are value-types > which means when they're passed on (unless passed by a reference) their > copies are modified but not the original one. > That's cause object's in PHP are reference types, when passed they're always > passed by reference. > Thus making a general ArrayObject class even internally for now should follow > value-types semantics. > How do you want to reconcile that? Excellent point. Would it not be possible to automatically do a clone on pass when __asArray()===true, such as this: <?php function setBar($foo,$newbar) { $foo->bar = $newbar; } class Foo extends ArrayObject { public $bar; private $as_array = true; function __asArray(){ return $this->as_array; } function setAsArray($as_array){ $this->as_array = $as_array; } } // PHP 7.x $foo = new Foo(); $foo->bar = 'baz'; setBar(clone $foo,'bazoom'); echo $foo->bar; // outputs: baz setBar($foo,'bazoom'); echo $foo->bar; // outputs: bazoom // PHP 8.x (maybe?) $foo = new Foo(); $foo->bar = 'baz'; setBar($foo,'bazoom'); echo $foo->bar; // outputs: baz $foo->setAsArray(false); setBar($foo,'bazoom'); echo $foo->bar; // outputs: bazoom > Another thing is when shaping an OO API on general array class -> ArrayObject > all of the existing array_xxx > functions IMO should be deprecated and that's not likely gonna happen. Are you saying that ideally we'd have $array->map($callable) instead of array_map($callable,$array)? Totally agree, but I'd rather have array_map() work with ArrayObject than wait for a "perfect" API that may never come. > If you ask me why I think like that, well if ArrayObject is going to be > automatically served from all arrays > keeping array_xxx functions makes no longer a sense, the only thing they > could do from that point > is only calling an ArrayObject method, which is different from what they do > now they return a new value-type > a new array with filtered, mapped key-value array elements, when working with > objects you expect > them to mutate themself if they're mutable or return a brand new instance > when they're immutable. I think it definitely makes sense, because backward compatibility. We could easily layer a better API on later, assuming opt-in via interface so that no BC would occur. > maybe there is an additional initialization needed besides of key-value pairs > only, for eg. additional constructor argument. ... If that happens for > internal array_xxx functions it would be hard to guess how to create a new > instance, > they'd become a thin wrapper of calling ArrayObject like methods, nothing > more. In the case of userland code extending ArrayObject or its related interfaces could it not simply leverage __clone() if it needs to create a new instance of self to address that concern? -Mike