And the point was..? AFAICT, our system works fine.
Seemed like the linux dudes are way behind. :)
--Jani
On Sat, 28 Jun 2003, Sascha Schumann wrote:
> There is a thread on the netdev mailing list right now
> regarding bug databases. Lots of interesting points, some of
> them apply to the PHP project as well.
>
> Head of thread:
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-netdev&m=105669326002116&w=2
>
> - Sascha
>
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 17:19:33 -0700 (PDT)
>From: David S. Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: networking bugs and bugme.osdl.org
>
> From: Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 28 Jun 2003 00:04:30 +0100
>
> it means you can spot patterns, trends
>
>I already spot patterns and trends when people retransmit the
>bug/patch/whatever. As do other people.
>
>Frankly, people who aren't willing to maintain their patches
>and retransmit them to me, do not matter as far as I am concerned.
>If you don't want to put forth the effort, I do not want to interact
>with you. I feel the same way about bugs.
>
>Linus has been saying this and doing it for years, and I've had to
>learn the hard way that he's absolutely right in this regard. If you
>try to track everything, you accomplish nothing. You will, however,
>get overloaded and frustrated. To scale one must reserve the right to
>hit the delete key and it's _GONE_ not accumulating somewhere else.
>
>We need social engineering. If someone never gets their bug looked at
>because they post absolute crap bug reports, that's a feature. If
>people spend all this effort making sense of such reports and fix them
>_ANYWAYS_ the reporter will never learn to produce high quality bug
>reports that are more useful to us. That means the scarcest resource
>we have is being used inefficiently.
>
>That same goes for patches, and I've watched over time how this works.
>
>This is another reasone that I hate when people privately email me
>stuff, because I _WILL_ delete it and I _WILL_ lose it. If you post
>it to the lists, it gets accumulated somewhere but it doesn't clog
>my mailbox and it doesn't create a backlog for me. It also means that
>if I'm sipping Mai Tai's in Hawaii other people will see and can react
>to the report.
>
>
>
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