On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 04:31:42PM +0800, Jike Song wrote:
> On 04/21/2016 06:44 AM, cac...@quantum-sci.com wrote:
> > 
> > No one will just come out and just tell us the truth, so that users can 
> > quit wasting our time trying to make your Xen work.  Your 4.2 kernel dumps 
> > core on i915, and Xen hangs on disk drive ID.
> > 
> > Why don't you just take down the Xen half of this whole thing, and stop 
> > causing so many people the loss of so much time?  It is very costly and 
> > frustrating for people to spend weeks to learn and customize a project to 
> > try and make it work, when it turns out that the underlying software is 
> > utterly broken.  Not to mention embarrassing, when we have strongly 
> > advocated this approach to our bosses and clients, and it turns out to be 
> > snakebit.
> > 
> > And on top of that you universally ignore questions on IRC and listserv, 
> > probably because you don't want to own up to the actual state of things?  
> > What do you people think you're doing all day?  You can't, just do an 
> > occasional freeze and release a fairly stable point-release so that users 
> > can set up and learn about it?  You just leave up a busted bunch of 
> > haywires, as if you're satisfying your company's requirements?  I know, 
> > you're still getting paid no matter what.
> > 
> > So let's just agree that doing both KVM -and- Xen, is too much for you.  
> > And/or that you've put the n00bs on Xen, who have nothing to lose.
> > 
> > I implore that you be honest, and take this junk down to just concentrate 
> > on KVM.  You can't do Xen;  you clearly can't even do its drivers.
> > 
> 
> By "4.2 kernels" are you referring to the 2015q4 release of XenGT?
> 
> If so, please at least use the proper mail list:
> 
>       https://lists.01.org/mailman/listinfo/igvt-g
> 
> 
> intel-gfx is for "Intel graphics driver community testing & development",
> not graphics virtualization.

And in the future please cut out the flaming - it doesn't help and we
really don't appreciate that kind of style on intel-gfx here. I understand
that it's super-frustrating when things don't work, but that's no reason
to lash out.

For the actual issues, like Jike said the intel-gfx team just does the
bare metal enabling, we're not the experts for virtualization. That's a
different team, and right now most of that code isn't yet merged upstream.

Thanks, Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch
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