Thanks for the suggestions! I posted a new version of the document based on 
this and other suggestions from IETF 122:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-karstens-intarea-multicast-application-port/

Rather than provide specific guidance to the review team, the new version just 
points out that the ports team is not prevented from making port assignments – 
they have discretion to approve on a case-by-case basis. Hopefully the new 
question on the request form will be enough to encourage use of the Multicast 
Application Port. If there are compelling reasons not to use it, then the 
submitter can make their case and the review team can use their judgement to 
determine what is best for the community.

Cheers,

Nate

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Hi, all, Agreed - it is useful. Speaking from the ports review team, I would 
ask whether the current requested port is already deployed; I recommend 
replacing the current text with “TBD” until an assignment has actually been 
made, and avoiding

Hi, all,

Agreed - it is useful.

Speaking from the ports review team, I would ask whether the current requested 
port is already deployed; I recommend replacing the current text with “TBD” 
until an assignment has actually been made, and avoiding indicating a specific 
number until coordinated with IANA.

Joe

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On Mar 17, 2025, at 3:52 AM, Gorry Fairhurst 
<go...@erg.abdn.ac.uk<mailto:go...@erg.abdn.ac.uk>> wrote:

Thanks for this draft!

My comment at the microphone in INTAREA today, was about the change in the 
policy implied for new assignment requests that are received by IANA.


   IANA is requested to update its "Application for Service Names and
   User Port Numbers" [IANA-APP] to reference this document, ask if the
   Multicast Application Port may be used, and require an explanation if
   not.

i.e.: This is sort of written above in the second half of the sentence, but I 
suspect the I-D ought to provide clear guidance on how a request for a future 
allocation is to be processed by IANA and what the Ports Team ought with the 
request for a port. Likely IANA could help with a suggested wording, e.g., do 
we need to change question 1 in the 
https://www.iana.org/form/ports-services<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.iana.org/form/ports-services__;!!EJc4YC3iFmQ!V2Ab901u7bqmX3vdiUGOgDa8EP2PF5q9OMeCGSKCj0-d4-zeqM1byzE8vzkZO1ibt0VXN0P1wJa1N0hBKzU$>
 in some way?

Best wishes,

Gorry

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