Hi,

Thanks for this update, there are some good additions.

Broadly speaking, there are two types of limited domain protocols:

Layer-2 type limited domain protocols: These are protocols that are intended to 
be used within a single LAN segment.

Transport type service (for example MPLS and SRv6): These protocols are 
intended to provide a transport service, and are intended to remain within a 
single administrative domain such as a Enterprise or a Service Provider network.

I think this is a useful distinction, but there's an inconsistency with the last sentence 
of the Introduction, that ends with "not intended to remain within a single 
administrative domain."

Also, MPLS and SRv6 are example that only work for the ITU meaning of "transport". To 
cover the IETF meaning of "transport" you need another couple of examples, such as a 
corporate VPN (likely based on IPSec, but that's only one option) and the RFC 8994 Autonomic 
Control Plane.

I was also wondering whether there is also a third type, application layer 
limited domains, where the limitations and security are applied regardless of 
transport. That would be out of scope for int-area, of course.

Regards
   Brian Carpenter

On 04-Mar-25 05:48, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote:
Internet-Draft draft-wkumari-intarea-safe-limited-domains-04.txt is now
available.

    Title:   Safe(r) Limited Domains
    Authors: Warren Kumari
             Andrew Alston
             Éric Vyncke
             Suresh Krishnan
             Donald Eastlake
    Name:    draft-wkumari-intarea-safe-limited-domains-04.txt
    Pages:   12
    Dates:   2025-03-03

Abstract:

    Documents describing protocols that are only intended to be used
    within "limited domains" often do not clearly define how the boundary
    of the limited domain is implemented and enforced, or require that
    operators of these limited domains perfectly filter at all of the
    boundary nodes of the domain to protect the rest of the global
    Internet from these protocols and vice-versa.

    This document discusses some design principles and offers mechanisms
    to allow protocols that are designed to operate in a limited domain
    "fail-closed" rather than "fail-open", thereby making these protocols
    safer to deploy on the Internet.

    These mechanism are not applicable to all protocols intended for use
    in a limited domain, but if implemented on certain classes of
    protocols, they can significantly reduce the risks.

The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wkumari-intarea-safe-limited-domains/

There is also an HTML version available at:
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-wkumari-intarea-safe-limited-domains-04.html

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-wkumari-intarea-safe-limited-domains-04

Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at:
rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts


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