Tom,

>The text you quoted says why we can't do that. If a frag header length is not 
>a multiple of eight bytes then the alignment requirements for all subsequent 
>extension headers and the payload are not met. >This potentially breaks a 
>receiving implementation that relies on alignment.

I both do and don’t understand why this limitation applies here. Currently, no 
IP protocol number exists for the IPv6 Extended Fragment Header, so currently 
no receiving implementations recognize it. So, why can’t we define one 
special-case IPv6 extension header that bends the rules? As implementations are 
deployed to recognize it, they will naturally accommodate the discontinuity in 
8-octet aligned extension headers.

With modern architectures, I would think that saving the network transmission 
overhead of 4 wasted octets per message would outweigh the processing drawbacks 
in having a discontinuity in 8-octet alignment. Especially since no 
implementations currently exist.

Fred


From: Tom Herbert <tom=40herbertland....@dmarc.ietf.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 12:04 PM
To: Templin (US), Fred L <fred.l.temp...@boeing.com>
Cc: int-area <int-area@ietf.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Int-area] "Identification Extension for the Internet 
Protocol" question


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On Tue, Nov 21, 2023, 11:44 AM Templin (US), Fred L 
<Fred.L.Templin=40boeing....@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:40boeing....@dmarc.ietf.org>>
 wrote:
Section 8 of "Identification Extension for the Internet Protocol" proposes a 
new IPv6 extension
header called the "Extended Fragment Header" that includes a 96-bit (12 octet) 
Identification
field making the total length of the extension header 128-bits (16 octets):

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-templin-intarea-ipid-ext/

However, the only reason for the 96-bit Identification field was to make the 
whole
extension header be an integral multiple of 8 octets - what would be preferable 
would
be to have only a 64-bit Identification field and limit the Extended Fragment 
Header as
a whole to 96-bits (12 octets) which is not a multiple of 8 octets.

The IPv6 Fragment Header is unique among IPv6 extension headers in that it does 
not
include a "Hdr Ext Len" field that tells the length of the header in 8-octet 
units. This
means that implementations must be able to determine its length (8 octets) 
solely
based on the IP protocol number "44". The proposed IPv6 Extended Fragment Header
would likewise not include a "Hdr Ext Len" field and would use a new IP protocol
number to be assigned by IANA, with the IP protocol number determining the
extension header length.

RFC8200, Section 4 states:

   "Each extension header is an integer multiple of 8 octets long, in
   order to retain 8-octet alignment for subsequent headers."

But, can an exception be made for the proposed IPv6 Extended Fragment Header
with a 64-bit Identification field, making the total extension header length 12 
octets
which is not a integer multiple of 8?

Hi Fred,

The text you quoted says why we can't do that. If a frag header length is not a 
multiple of eight bytes then the alignment requirements for all subsequent 
extension headers and the payload are not met. This potentially breaks a 
receiving implementation that relies on alignment.

Tom


Thank you - Fred

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