Yes, it is an interesting outcome — but I think that in the same was that a VPN 
interface is a PvD, a proxy configuration that can tunnel traffic (particularly 
in the case of CONNECT-IP proxies that support passing any and all IP traffic) 
is indeed a PvD with it’s own configuration.

Rather than having MASQUE proxies define yet another mechanism for 
communicating DNS zones and split DNS configs, I’m proposing we use the 
already-defined HTTP JSON for PvDs here. Seemed like the cleanest answer =)

Tommy

> On Jun 28, 2023, at 10:11 PM, Erik Kline <ek.i...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> <no hats>
> 
> Looks like an interesting proposal, and it raised an interesting point: that 
> proxies can be provisioning domains unto themselves (this hadn't exactly 
> occurred to me before, but makes sense).
> 
> Looking forward to more discussion.
> 
> Thanks,
> -ek
> 
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 1:42 PM Tommy Pauly 
> <tpauly=40apple....@dmarc.ietf.org <mailto:40apple....@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:
>> Hello INTAREA and MASQUE,
>> 
>> I wanted to share a new draft 
>> (https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-pauly-intarea-proxy-config-pvd-00.html)
>>  that uses Provisioning Domains (from intarea-produced RFC 8801) to:
>> 
>> - Discover URLs (and URL templates) of HTTP proxies such as MASQUE proxies 
>> that are provided by a network. This allows ISP and carrier networks to 
>> advertise proxies they support, which is useful for clients to learn about 
>> proxies they could use a first hop of a chain of privacy proxies, or for 
>> solutions like AT-SSS in 3GPP.
>> - Associate a PvD with an HTTP proxy to learn which subset of domains it 
>> might support, and other related proxies. This allows proxies to support 
>> “split DNS” configurations.
>> 
>> Note that this would allow us to have a standard way to replace some of the 
>> functionality that WPAD and PAC files are used for otherwise. 
>> 
>> I’d like to present this at IETF 117 to both the INTAREA and MASQUE groups, 
>> if possible.
>> 
>> Please take a read; your comments are appreciated!
>> 
>> Best,
>> Tommy
>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A new version of I-D, draft-pauly-intarea-proxy-config-pvd-00.txt
>>> has been successfully submitted by Tommy Pauly and posted to the
>>> IETF repository.
>>> 
>>> Name:               draft-pauly-intarea-proxy-config-pvd
>>> Revision:   00
>>> Title:              Communicating Proxy Configurations in Provisioning 
>>> Domains
>>> Document date:      2023-06-27
>>> Group:              Individual Submission
>>> Pages:              10
>>> URL:            
>>> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-pauly-intarea-proxy-config-pvd-00.txt
>>> Status:         
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pauly-intarea-proxy-config-pvd/
>>> Html:           
>>> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-pauly-intarea-proxy-config-pvd-00.html
>>> Htmlized:       
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-pauly-intarea-proxy-config-pvd
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Abstract:
>>>   This document defines a mechanism for accessing provisioning domain
>>>   information associated with a proxy, such a list of DNS zones that
>>>   are accessible via an HTTP CONNECT proxy.  It also defines a way to
>>>   enumerate proxies that are associated with a known provisioning
>>>   domain.
>>> 
>>> Discussion Venues
>>> 
>>>   This note is to be removed before publishing as an RFC.
>>> 
>>>   Source for this draft and an issue tracker can be found at
>>>   https://github.com/tfpauly/privacy-proxy.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The IETF Secretariat
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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