> If we care about the peer-to-peer property, varying addresses require a 
> rendezvous process based on a non-varying identifier. It's then the latter 
> that becomes the handle for surveillance and forensics. The real impact of 
> CGNAT is to push that factoid into surveillance models; it gives IPv4 the 
> same privacy assist that temporary addresses give IPv6.

Hosts talk to hosts, I don't care if they are in a data center or two clients. 
You don't have to distinguish and certainly shouldn't design an address 
algorithm to distinguish.

As for surveliience and privacy, you can't have both. So pick one.

And Luigi, you shouldn't trust the devices that are close to you. Even if you 
manage them you can't trust the vendors that make them.

Dino

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