> I think the discussion is about to talk which layer should the features be > added to. (network? Host? Or the abstracted waist?) > > It is true that users expect more features from the NETWORK as a lot of you > proposed, but users are definitely know nothing about TCP/IP or OSI or ATM > architecture.
I certainly agree and hence why multi-homing and mobility needs to be hidden from both the apps and the users that use such apps. > For this, users do not ask that features must be added to a certain layers, > and ALL layers seems to be a bundle named NETWORK to them. Right. Agree. > So can I shape the discussion into “What feature may users expect from the > NETWORK? ” (Here the NETWORK is regarded as a bundle from a user perspective). So here is my request again acting as a dumb user: "I want to move around and stay connected ALL THE TIME". "I want more bandwidth out of my phone". "Why do I have to refresh all the time when an app says 'not connected'." > Once we confirmed these expected features form users/outsiders, it only goes > to insiders’ discussion and choices that which layers the features should be > put to. Agree. So lets agree on the features before discussing any types of solutions. In my replies I have talked about solutions because other have asked. I want this thread to set user requirements. Dino _______________________________________________ Int-area mailing list Int-area@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area