[email protected] (Benjamin L. Russell) writes: > X-Draft-From: ("gnu.emacs.gnus" 38318) > References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > Gcc: nnml:archive > Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus > Subject: Re: SMPT no longer works in Starttls upon upgrading from > emacs-22.3-bin-i386 to emacs-23.1-bin-i386 on Windows XP Professional, > Service Pack 3. > Bcc: 'Benjamin L. Russell' <[email protected]>, 'Benjamin Leon Russell > (Gmail)' <[email protected]>, 'Benjamin Leon Russell (Yahoo.co.jp)' > <[email protected]> > From: [email protected] (Benjamin L. Russell) > Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:13:55 +0900 > --text follows this line-- > Marco Maggi <[email protected]> writes: > >> "Benjamin L. Russell" wrote: >>> Apparently, it is possible to send e-mail through >>> gnutils-cli successfully using an immediate encrypted >>> bridge >>> [...] >>> However, when I try to send an EOF to the process through >>> the Emacs eshell function "eshell-send-eof-to-process", >>> for some reason, the TLS handshake fails; [...] >> >> Here is a copy and paste of an eshell session on my Linux >> system (I am doing this from Italy, whatever this means for >> IP addresses): >> >> | $ gnutls-cli --crlf --starttls --port 587 plus.smtp.mail.yahoo.com >> | Resolving 'plus.smtp.mail.yahoo.com'... >> | Connecting to '76.13.13.48:587'... >> | >> | - Simple Client Mode: >> | >> | 220 smtp110.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ESMTP >> | ehlo localhost >> | 250-smtp110.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com >> | 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN XYMCOOKIE >> | 250-PIPELINING >> | 250 8BITMIME >> >> among the 250 lines there is no STARTTLS capability, so: >> >> | starttls >> | 502 Command not implemented >> >> which means that the server does not support establishing >> the TLS layer with STARTTLS through the 587 interface; so >> the only option is to use port 465 and the immediate bridge >> (SMTP-over-SSL mode). >> >> If this is the case, it is not a problem with Gnus, >> Message, or Emacs in itself. Rather it is a problem of >> "smtpmail.el" because, AFAICT, it only supports delayed TLS >> layer creation (STARTTLS mode), as I already reported to the >> Emacs mailing list[1]. >> >> After a quick inspection of "smtpmail.el.gz" distributed >> with Emacs 23, I say that the feature request has not been >> satisfied; at least, around line 678, I do not see code that >> can be used to build the TLS bridge (send SIGALRM or >> whatever) before sending the EHLO greetings. >> >> So either you must use an external Mail Delivery Agent >> (which, by the way, is what I do with the MBFL script). Is >> my understanding that you want to use MSMTP[2] correct? I >> do not use it, but it seems it can act as MDA for you. >> >> Again, first you should make sure that you can >> successfully send email using a raw command line with MSMTP. > > Done. As you mentioned, it works with port 465, but not with port 587, > as follows: > >> $ ./msmtp.exe --host=plus.smtp.mail.yahoo.com >> --domain=plus.smtp.mail.yahoo.com --port=587 --auth=on --user=dekudekuplex >> --tls=on --tls-starttls=off --tls-certcheck=off >> [email protected] [email protected] >> msmtp: TLS handshake failed: error:140770FC:SSL >> routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO: >> unknown protocol >> msmtp: could not send mail >> >> benja...@200706-05 /usr/sbin >> $ ./msmtp.exe --host=plus.smtp.mail.yahoo.com >> --domain=plus.smtp.mail.yahoo.com --port=465 --auth=on --user=dekudekuplex >> --tls=on --tls-starttls=off --tls-certcheck=off >> [email protected] [email protected] >> password for dekudekuplex at plus.smtp.mail.yahoo.com: >> This is a test of msmtp.exe. >> . >> > > Receipt of the sent e-mail message was verified at [email protected]. > >> If that works, IMHO: >> >> (setq send-mail-function 'message-send-mail-with-sendmail >> message-send-mail-function 'message-send-mail-with-sendmail) >> >> should work, with the right configuration, because you can >> select all the relevant options with the MSMTP configuration >> file. >> >>> Additionally, here are the relevant portions from my >>> msmptrc.txt file >>> >>> defaults >>> tls on >>> tls_certcheck off >>> tls_starttls on >> >> IMHO, reading [4], it should be "tls_starttls off", meaning: >> use TLS with SMTP-over-SSL mode not with STARTTLS mode. > > Unfortunately, it still results in the following error message: > >> Sending via mail... >> message-send-mail-with-sendmail: Sending...failed with exit value 78 > > I copied my msmtp configuration file from ~/msmtprc.txt to ~/.msmtprc, > since according to the output of "/usr/sbin/msmtp.exe --version", the > Cygwin version, as opposed to the native Windows version, uses the > latter file as a user configuration file; _viz._: > >> $ ./msmtp.exe --version >> msmtp version 1.4.13 >> TLS/SSL library: OpenSSL >> Authentication library: GNU SASL >> Supported authentication methods: >> plain cram-md5 digest-md5 external login >> IDN support: enabled >> NLS: disabled >> System configuration file name: /etc/msmtprc >> User configuration file name: /cygdrive/c/home/.msmtprc > >> Copyright (C) 2007 Martin Lambers and others. >> This is free software. You may redistribute copies of it under the terms of >> the GNU General Public License <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>. >> There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. > > Here are the revised contents of my ~/.msmtprc file (note the changes > from "tls_starttls on" to "tls_starttls off" in both the "defaults" and > "account dekudekuplex" sections, and the change from port 587 to port 465): > >> ######################## >> defaults >> tls on >> tls_certcheck off >> tls_starttls off > >> account dekudekuplex >> host plus.smtp.mail.yahoo.com >> domain plus.smtp.mail.yahoo.com >> tls on >> tls_certcheck off >> tls_starttls off >> auth on >> user [email protected] >> from [email protected] >> password >> port 465 > >> logfile c:\home\.msmtplog.txt >> ######################## > > Additionally, here are the revised relevant portions of my ~/.gnus.el > file: > >> (setq send-mail-function 'message-send-mail-with-sendmail) >> >> (setq message-send-mail-function 'message-send-mail-with-sendmail) >> >> ; The following settings were adapted from the article "Re: Debugging msmtp >> in gnus," by Sivaram Neelakantan <[email protected]>, dated "Wed, 02 >> Sep 2009 22:36:12 +0530," on gnu.emacs.gnus >> (setq sendmail-program "c:/cygwin/usr/sbin/msmtp.exe") >> ; (setq sendmail-program "c:/bin/msmtprc/1.4.17/msmtp.exe") >> (setq message-sendmail-extra-arguments '("-a" "dekudekuplex")) >> (setq mail-host-address "yahoo.com") >> (setq smtpmail-debug-info t) ; only to debug problems set to t if needed >> (setq smtpmail-debug-verb t) >> >> (setq starttls-use-gnutls t) >> >> (setq starttls-gnutls-program "c:/usr/bin/gnutls-cli.exe") >> >> ;; Configure outbound mail (SMTP) >> (setq smtpmail-starttls-credentials '(("plus.smtp.mail.yahoo.com" 465 nil >> nil)) >> smtpmail-smtp-server "plus.smtp.mail.yahoo.com" >> smtpmail-default-smtp-server "plus.smtp.mail.yahoo.com" >> send-mail-function 'message-send-mail-with-sendmail >> message-send-mail-function 'message-send-mail-with-sendmail >> smtpmail-smtp-service 465 >> smtpmail-auth-credentials '(("plus.smtp.mail.yahoo.com" >> 465 >> "[email protected]" >> nil))) > > For some reason, "exit value 78" results in Gnus even if msmtp.exe > succeeds in sending an e-mail message at the command line with identical > settings. > >> As a last resort, if you know how to use MSMTP from the >> command line to send email using port 465, you may try to >> adapt my library[3] for sending email with a custom >> "message-send-mail-function" function.
Incidentally, when using msmtp.exe at the command line, for some reason, I was unable to get msmtp.exe to work correctly when specifying a user configuration file; msmtp.exe kept complaining about the content of the file. For example, at first, I specified the following contents for ~/.msmtprc, as stated before: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- ######################## defaults tls on tls_certcheck off tls_starttls off account dekudekuplex host plus.smtp.mail.yahoo.com domain plus.smtp.mail.yahoo.com tls on tls_certcheck off tls_starttls off auth on user [email protected] from [email protected] password port 465 logfile c:\home\.msmtplog.txt ######################## --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- This resulted in the following error message upon invocation: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- benja...@200706-05 /usr/sbin $ ./msmtp.exe --file="/cygdrive/c/home/.msmtprc" --account=dekudekuplex --domain=plus.smtp.mail.yahoo.com --port=465 --auth=on --user=dekudekuplex --tls=on --tls-starttls=off --tls-certcheck=off [email protected] [email protected] msmtp: /cygdrive/c/home/.msmtprc: line 1: unknown command ・ｿ################### ##### --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Removing the comments resulted in the following interaction: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- benja...@200706-05 /usr/sbin $ ./msmtp.exe --file="/cygdrive/c/home/.msmtprc" --account=dekudekuplex --domai n=plus.smtp.mail.yahoo.com --port=465 --auth=on --user=dekudekuplex --tls=on -- tls-starttls=off --tls-certcheck=off [email protected] dekudekuplex @yahoo.com msmtp: /cygdrive/c/home/.msmtprc: line 1: unknown command ・ｿdefaults --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Then I trimmed the file down to a bare-bones version, leaving only the information for the account "dekudekuplex", as follows: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- host plus.smtp.mail.yahoo.com domain plus.smtp.mail.yahoo.com tls on tls_certcheck off tls_starttls off auth on user [email protected] from [email protected] password port 465 logfile c:\home\.msmtplog.txt --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- However, this still resulted in the following error message upon invocation: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- benja...@200706-05 /usr/sbin $ ./msmtp.exe --file="/cygdrive/c/home/.msmtprc" --account=dekudekuplex --domai n=plus.smtp.mail.yahoo.com --port=465 --auth=on --user=dekudekuplex --tls=on -- tls-starttls=off --tls-certcheck=off [email protected] dekudekuplex @yahoo.com msmtp: /cygdrive/c/home/.msmtprc: line 1: unknown command ・ｿhost --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Finally, I recast all the information into a sequence of command-line-style flags, with one flag per line, _viz._: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- --host=plus.smtp.mail.yahoo.com --domain=plus.smtp.mail.yahoo.com --tls=on --tls_certcheck=off --tls_starttls=off --auth=on [email protected] [email protected] --port=465 --logfile="c:\home\.msmtplog.txt" --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Unfortunately, this still resulted in the following error message upon invocation: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- benja...@200706-05 /usr/sbin $ ./msmtp.exe --file="/cygdrive/c/home/.msmtprc" --account=dekudekuplex --domai n=plus.smtp.mail.yahoo.com --port=465 --auth=on --user=dekudekuplex --tls=on -- tls-starttls=off --tls-certcheck=off [email protected] dekudekuplex @yahoo.com msmtp: /cygdrive/c/home/.msmtprc: line 1: unknown command ・ｿ--host=plus.smtp.ma il.yahoo.com --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- This is probably an irrelevant issue, but msmtp.exe should be able to accept configuration options with specification of a user configuration file using the "--file=" option. Would you happen to know how to get this option to work? -- Benjamin L. Russell -- Benjamin L. Russell / DekuDekuplex at Yahoo dot com http://dekudekuplex.wordpress.com/ Translator/Interpreter / Mobile: +011 81 80-3603-6725 "Furuike ya, kawazu tobikomu mizu no oto." -- Matsuo Basho^ _______________________________________________ info-gnus-english mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
