Tim X <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hadron Quark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I am using smtpmail package through a gmail smtp server to send email. >> >> But if I use gnus to send a mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" why isnt procmail >> picking it up and diverting it to my local root mmaildir? Procmail does >> its job just fine when I use the Linux commandline "mail" command. >> >> I'm unsure where postfix and smptmail.el fit together. >> >> Any pointers appreciated. >> >> -- > > When using smtpmail, emacs connects directly to the remote smtp server > and totally bypasses your local smtp server (postfix). Your procmail > is probably the default delivery agent for your local smtp server > (this is the standard config these days).
I figured this. > > This means that your message addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is being sent > to the remote gmail smtp server, which if correctly configured, should > probably reject the message (i.e. doesn't accept @localhost addresses > unless they come from that machine) or possibly it will attempt to > find a user with that name on that server (but I think this would be > an incorrect configuration). In your example, it would be delivered to > wherever root mail messages are delivered for the remote smtp server - > probably one of the sys admins. Yup. > > Mail sent via other programs than emacs/gnus don't know about > smtpmail and is using your local smtp server (postfix) and as the mail > is originating locally, accepts the message and passes it to procmail, > which delivers it to the mailbox. After I setup my exim4 procmail_pipe or something yes. > > I recently started using smtpmail because my ISP has placed all their > dynamic IP addresses into various blacklists and messages I sent via > my local smtp server (which was setup as a smarthost that relayed all > non-local mail to my ISP smtp server, would often get rejected by > destination hosts that were using a very strict mail policy which Which is why I switched to smtpmail too - and it took ages to get it going. > refuses to accept mail from blacklisted IPs. Many ISPs are doing this > these days to protect themselves from being blacklisted by a customer > who runs a local smtp server which is either misconfigured and gets > abused by a spammer or to send spam themselves. > > I've been running this configuration for a couple of weeks now and it > works quite well. The only downside is that sometimes there can be a > slight delay between sending the mail and getting emacs responding > again - probably due to high loads on the remote smtp server. I have I dont have that at all. I moved to emacs snapshot - returns very quickly. Dont forget you can also setup smtpmail to queue the posts. > also configured fetchmail to retrieve my mail from remote imap/pop > mailboxes and hand it directly to procmail. This means I no longer Same as. > need to run a mail server at all - which is great as I'm way past > finding maintaining a mail server "fun" and the less I have to > maintain the better. I was running exim as my local mail server as it > is easy to setup. Postfix is probably overkill for a local machine, > unless you have many users and lots of mail traffic. From memory, I > also seem to remember it is a bit difficult to run postfix and NOT > have it run as a daemon listening on prot 25. Many people don't > realise that you only need an smtp server listening on a port if you > are accepting mail from a remote host. Likewise, many people forget > that the mail server (postfix, sendmail, exim etc) don't actually > deliver mail, but instead use a delivery program, such as procmail. Well, procmail doesnt deliever remotely - thats why you need smtpmail/ exim configured to deliver via a smarthost. Unfortunately TLS authentication, while working last night, is now scuppered. But thats by the by. But this still begs the question : how to configure gnus to (preferably using procmail rules) palm off emails destined to local users and NOT to send them off to the smtp server I am using from smtpmail. > > HTH > > Tim -- _______________________________________________ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
