Despite last weeks thread on making it a bit clearer/easier for people to unsubscribe from this mailling list, I am now in that position myself. I have lost my original 'welcome to the list' mail years ago, and I can't seem to find any instructions on how to subscribe/unsubscribe in any of the following places : - The mail headers - The non-existant mail footer (like most other mailling lists have) - The website - ah! hold on - it's hidden under 'Contacts' - not very intuitive (IMO). Eventually, it has taken me about 15 minutes to unsubscribe (and a couple of minutes to whinge about how hard it was to find the unsubscription information). Surely it could be made _much_ easier for people by simply adding a message like 'For unsubscription and list archive information, visit http://asg2.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/contacts.html' to the bottom of list emails. Even better - switch to majordomo ;) Anyway. I'm off travelling for a year ;) See you in 2002. -- Ross Free your desktop - http://www.freedesktop.org/