Dear Harry,

Although the focus here is on Buddhism, in and beyond India, some of the talks 
in this series speak directly to the question you raise.

https://thsc.web.ox.ac.uk/treasure-seminar-serieshttps://thsc.web.ox.ac.uk/treasure-seminar-series

best,
Matthew

Matthew T. Kapstein
Professor emeritus
Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, PSL Research University, Paris

Associate
The University of Chicago Divinity School

https://ephe.academia.edu/MatthewKapstein

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On Sunday, October 1st, 2023 at 10:36 AM, Raffaele Torella via INDOLOGY 
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear Harry,
> my old article in the JIPh might be of some interest to you.
> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ej0i0lbqfcr3z1xt1g0um/Torella.Dev-uv-ca-or-the-Theology-of-the-Perfect-Tense.pdf?rlkey=catgdab68vglyjrxmxgt0keir&dl=0
>
> [Torella.Devī uvāca, or the Theology of the Perfect 
> Tense.pdf](https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ej0i0lbqfcr3z1xt1g0um/Torella.Dev-uv-ca-or-the-Theology-of-the-Perfect-Tense.pdf?rlkey=catgdab68vglyjrxmxgt0keir&dl=0)
> [dropbox.com](https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ej0i0lbqfcr3z1xt1g0um/Torella.Dev-uv-ca-or-the-Theology-of-the-Perfect-Tense.pdf?rlkey=catgdab68vglyjrxmxgt0keir&dl=0)
>    
> [favicon.ico](https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ej0i0lbqfcr3z1xt1g0um/Torella.Dev-uv-ca-or-the-Theology-of-the-Perfect-Tense.pdf?rlkey=catgdab68vglyjrxmxgt0keir&dl=0)
>
> Cari saluti
> Raffaele
>
>> Il giorno 1 ott 2023, alle ore 01:23, Harry Spier via INDOLOGY 
>> <[email protected]> ha scritto:
>>
>> Dear list members,
>> I've wondered for a long time how is the appearance of anonymous post vedic 
>> revealed literature explained within the traditions.
>>
>> By that I mean.for example with the tantric literature. We have tantric 
>> texts that are dialogues between a god and his goddess usually starting with 
>> some statement like: "The God said" or "The goddess asked" etc. and my 
>> understanding is that tantric texts like this have been appearing for over a 
>> thousand years.
>>
>> Of course we explain them simply that such and such a text was written by a 
>> person or persons unknown at around such and such a date. But how do the 
>> traditions themselves explain this. I.e all of a sudden a written text that 
>> was unknown before with the words of a god written down usually beginnning 
>> with some statement like:śrīdevyuvāca or īśvara uvāca suddenly appeared in 
>> our world. And this happened with all this kind of revealed literature.. Do 
>> any of the texts ever say anything aboutt how and why the text will be 
>> revealed in the world of men or do the commentators ever say how the text 
>> came to be known in the world of men..
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Harry Spier
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> Sapienza University of Rome
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