Dear Gaia and list members,

I am not offering any evidence from the literature, rather would like to 
mention what I could observe and also was told within traditional communities 
in India that even if the male is a close relative, but not an inhabitant, as 
soon he enters the house, women disappear. Or if necessary in the case of a 
surprise visit, etc., they cover their whole head and of course their face with 
their pallu or dupatta. It was indicated to me indirectly that this behavior is 
used as a prevention to incest.

Edeltraud Harzer
University of Texas at Austin


> On Aug 2, 2023, at 2:41 AM, Gaia Pintucci via INDOLOGY 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Dear list members, 
> 
> I encountered the following statement: 
> kulāṅganā hi caramaṃ śāyinyaḥ prathamaṃ prabodhinyaś ca bhavanti
> and it was marked with an iti. 
> (A variant wording has caramaśāyinyaḥ prathamāvabodhinyaś for caramaṃ 
> śāyinyaḥ prathamaṃ prabodhinyaś.)
> Unfortunately my grepping yielded no result, therefore if someone among you 
> happens to know the source for this sentence or has a hunch of the type of 
> source which could include a similar statement, I would be very grateful to 
> hear from you. (I am thinking that dharmaśāstra might be the right place to 
> search for it, but it would be nice to first narrow down the range of texts 
> to examine.)
> Beside that and regardless whether the above really is a verbatim quote or 
> not, do any of you know more about the prescription/usage, in the ancient 
> Indian context, that women, if they are respectable, wake up first and go to 
> bed last?
> 
> All the best, 
> Gaia Pintucci
> 
> 
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