Dear Jean Michel, If no one already has a digital copy of Hokazono's edition of the Lalitavistara, vol. 1, I can scan my photocopy of it later today.
Best regards, David Reigle Colorado, U.S.A. On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 7:13 AM Jean Michel DELIRE via INDOLOGY < [email protected]> wrote: > Thank you very much, Jonathan, > > I didn't find anything in this article about the numerations, but it leads > to Burnouf's Lotus de la bonne loi, where I found that the great French > indologist dared to assign values to the units listed after the > *tallakṣaṇa*. Unhappily, this doesn't solve the other problems yet. The > article also points to Hokazono Koichi's modern edition of the > Lalitavistara, which could be very useful. I tried to find his volume I > (containing chapter XII) on Internet, but couldn't (at least on Google). Do > you know how to find it online ? > > Best regards, > > Jean Michel > > Le lun. 10 avr. 2023 à 12:09, Jonathan Silk <[email protected]> a écrit : > >> Dear Colleague >> >> I cannot pretend to the slightest knowledge of mathematics (Indian or >> otherwise), but concerning the *Lalitavistara* and its Sanskrit text, I >> might dare refer you to >> https://www.academia.edu/83898564/Recent_Scholarship_on_the_Lalitavistara >> >> Best, Jonathan Silk >> >> On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 11:40 AM Jean Michel DELIRE via INDOLOGY < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thank you very much, Lubomir, for uploading this edition, and David, for >>> pointing to the book, which I will certainly use for my course on History >>> of Indian mathematics (and astronomy). >>> Also for this course, I am nowadays struggling with a part of the >>> Lalitavistara, where the Buddha is showing his ability in numbers. His >>> enumeration of powers of 10, from the *koṭi *to the *tallakṣaṇa*, is >>> very clear. But things become obscure when he continues his enumeration >>> with other (supposed) powers of 10. The problem is that he says that the >>> next one, the *dhvajāgravatī*, is able to count all the sand of the >>> Gaṅgā, while the sixth one, the *sarvanikṣepa*, is able to count all >>> the sand of ten Gaṅgā. How is it possible if every unit equals the >>> previous one multiplied by ten (and what else could it be) ? Apart from >>> noting that this kind of enumeration and its use for counting the sand >>> reminds very much Archimede's Sandreckoner, I must add that there are >>> discrepancies between the two translations I know (de Foucaux 1988 (1884) >>> and Goswami 2001) and also with the 'sanskrit' text of Śāntibhikṣu >>> Śāstrī 1984. After this enumeration, comes a scale which rely the last >>> unit, the *paramāṇurajaḥpraveśānugata*, to the yojana, by multiplying >>> it by 7 ten times, and then again by 12, 2, 4, 1000 and 4, so that a yojana >>> equals 710.12.2.4.1000.4 *paramāṇurajaḥpraveśānugatas*. And, of course, >>> the Buddha asks if somebody can tell how many >>> *paramāṇurajaḥpraveśānugatas* would contain a bowl of 1 yojana. Here >>> again, the answer seems awkward for it amounts to 1028 while it should >>> be more than 1041. Does anyone have an explanation for these mistakes, >>> or know of a paper or a book which discusses these problems ? >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Jean Michel >>> >>> *Jean Michel DELIRE* >>> *Lecturer on History of mathematics - IHEB (ULB)* >>> *Lecturer on **Science and civilisation of India - Sanskrit Texts - >>> IHEB (ULB)* >>> *Member of the Centre National d'Histoire des Sciences (KBR, Bruxelles)* >>> *Member of the Société Asiatique (Paris)* >>> >>> Le lun. 10 avr. 2023 à 10:37, Lubomír Ondračka via INDOLOGY < >>> [email protected]> a écrit : >>> >>>> I just uploaded the pdf of the book that David sent me: >>>> https://archive.org/details/suryasiddhanta-shukla >>>> >>>> If anyone have the pdf of Sumatitantram that David writes about in the >>>> next email, please send it to me, I would be happy to upload it on >>>> archive.org as well. >>>> >>>> Best >>>> Lubomir >>>> >>>> >>>> On 09.04.2023 21:51, David and Nancy Reigle via INDOLOGY wrote: >>>> > I was wondering if there is a critical edition of the >>>> /Sūrya-siddhānta/. >>>> > I could not find one. However, there is something very close to one, >>>> > although it is not called a critical edition. It is Kripa Shankar >>>> > Shukla's edition, /The Sūrya-siddhānta with the Commentary of >>>> > Paramesvara/. Lucknow University: Department of Mathematics and >>>> > Astronomy, 1957. For the text of the /Sūrya-siddhānta/, he gives full >>>> > variant readings from manuscripts of the text as commented on by >>>> > Mallikārjuna Sūri (1178 CE), Yallaya (1472 CE), and Rāmakṛṣṇa Ārādhya >>>> > (1472 CE), besides from the printed edition of Raṅganātha's >>>> commentary >>>> > edited by Jīvānanda Vidyāsāgara. He says that he also consulted the >>>> > commentaries by Bhūdhara (1572 CE) and Tamma Yajvā (1599 CE) for >>>> > deciding between certain readings. Of course, the text is based on >>>> the >>>> > commentary by Parameśvara (1432 CE), which predates the commonly used >>>> > commentary by Raṅganātha (1603 CE) by nearly two centuries. When he >>>> has >>>> > chosen a reading different from Parameśvara's, he cites Parameśvara's >>>> > reading as mū. pustake, for mūla-pustake. >>>> > >>>> > I did not find a digital copy of Shukla's edition online, but I have >>>> > scanned the photocopy I made of it. Happy to send it to anyone who >>>> wants >>>> > it. Perhaps someone who knows how can upload it to the web. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Best regards, >>>> > >>>> > David Reigle >>>> > >>>> > Colorado, U.S.A. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > INDOLOGY mailing list >>>> > [email protected] >>>> > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>> >> >> >> -- >> Prof. dr. J.A. 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