Judging from the interface, one should get a reliable number for all
publicly viewable manuscripts in the database through the "advance
search" page, which is accessible from the starting page.
There one can select the option "public view". Searching just with this
option set to "yes" returns 17290 results.
There's a second relevant yes/no search option, "digitization". A search
with both "public view" and "digitization" set to "yes" returns 17258
results, one with "digitization" set to yes and "public view" set to
"no" returns 19396.
An "advance search" without any values at all entered returns 5145280
entries, by the way.
Perhaps registered accounts get to see more? However, one needs a
"permission letter" to register ...
Best regards,
Birgit Kellner
Am 18.12.22 um 07:33 schrieb Harry Spier via INDOLOGY:
Thanks Dhaval. Do you think not making the PDF's downloadable violates
the court order.
Harry Spier
On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 5:36 PM Dhaval Patel <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 at 3:32 AM, Harry Spier
<[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Dhavalji,
Thank you for the update.
1) If at the end of the day, the NMM keeps ignoring the court
order in spite of your non-compliance complaint, is there an
enforcement mechanism the Indian courts can use to compel
compliance?
Yes, there is.
2) I also followed your instructions and also got 27,049
records, but when I accessed any one of them. There was info
and a link but the link did not download anything. So I'm not
sure if any manuscripts have been put in the public domain.
When you click on the link on the search page, it leads to another
page which provides info about the specific manuscript e.g.
https://www.bharatiyakritisampada.nic.in/manus/search-view?id=MjgzNzYy
You will be able to see a link to PDF just above the heading
“Title of the Text”. Clicking on it will open a PDF viewer. The
PDFs are not downloadable. See the link below:
https://www.bharatiyakritisampada.nic.in/manus/pdf-view?content=MjgzNzYyL3BkZi9WQkkwMDAwMTIyNTVfQmFsaWTEgW5hdmlkaMSBbmFfMTc4MF9QREZBLnBkZg%253D%253D
Thanks again for your great efforts.
Harry Spier
On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 8:35 PM Dhaval Patel
<[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Harry and list members,
I regret to inform that there has not been compliance to
the order by NMM. I have filed a non-compliance complaint.
It was heard in November end. Order is yet to be received.
In the meanwhile, there seems to be certain manuscripts
which are put in public domain by NMM.
Steps:
1. Visit https://www.bharatiyakritisampada.nic.in/
2. Click on Digital Manuscripts.
3. Search for the manuscript.
I checked with writing only “a” and searched with the
presumption that every name of title would have at least
one “a” in its spelling. It gave me a response stating
that there are 27,049 manuscripts matching the query. I
have not checked, but it seems that these many manuscripts
are available in digital format for viewing online. If the
presumption is good, this is a substantial improvement.
With best wishes,
Dhaval
On Sat, 17 Dec 2022 at 6:58 AM, Harry Spier
<[email protected]> wrote:
Dear list members,
Its now over a year since Dhaval Patel informed the
list that through his great efforts the NMM (National
Mission for Manuscripts) was ordered by the Central
Information Commission to put all the manuscripts it
had photographed into the public domain.
Does anyone know the current status of this. Has the
order been complied with either partially or in full.
Thanks,
Harry Spier
Harry Spier
On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 12:57 PM Dhaval Patel via
INDOLOGY <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear scholars,
This information may be of interest to those of
you who work with manuscripts for their research.
It is regarding access of manuscripts digitized by
National Mission for Manuscripts, Government of India.
I would like to bring it to the notice of this
august gathering that my second appeal in
honourable Central Information Commission was
decided on 30.10.2021. The order is attached herewith.
Honourable Information Commissioner Mr. Uday
Mahurkar has decided this matter with a well
reasoned order.
The order directs NMM to do two things.
1. Put the digitized manuscripts (roughly 3 lacs)
in public domain within a period of 1 year
and
2. Allow me access of 30000 manuscripts for
downloading the same within a period of 1 month.
This order would surely pave the way for easier
access of manuscripts digitized by NMM to research
scholars.
I once again pay my respects to the honourable
Information Commissioner for enabling access to
this centuries old manuscript treasure of India. I
also place my appreciation on record for NMM and
manuscript repositories without whose support the
manuscripts would not have been digitized, and
their digital access would have been impossible.
Dr. Dhaval Patel
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