Dear Tim,
Dear Arlo,

I have seen cases where a book is freely accessible on Archive.org,
but only accessible in "snippett view" in Google books.

My impression is that Google is more of a commercial venture than archive.org

Best wishes

-- Jean-Luc

https://htl.cnrs.fr/equipe/jl-chevillard/


On 03/07/2022 13:34, Lubin, Tim wrote:
There is, presumably, an underlying scan, which Google has arbitrarily chosen not to make available for viewing or download, despite its being old enough to be out of copyright.  I wonder whether the decision hinges on the conditions stipulated by the library that supplied the volume for scanning.  In any case, it seems increasingly common that old books on Google are restricted to showing only a “snippet” or nothing at all.  I did find this Google listing but didn’t bother to mention it because it is perfectly useless.

Best,
Tim

*From: *INDOLOGY <[email protected]> on behalf of INDOLOGY <[email protected]>
*Reply-To: *Arlo Griffiths <[email protected]>
*Date: *Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 3:57 AM
*To: *INDOLOGY <[email protected]>
*Subject: *Re: [INDOLOGY] seeking Vaṃśabrāhmaṇa, Burnell ed. and DrāhyāyanaŚS, Reuters ed.

Thanks Asko.

Tim was asking partly on my behalf, as I am cleaning up my library and throwing out all xeroxes for books also available online, but wanting to keep for convenient scanning any xeroxes of works not yet available online.

I find this <https://books.google.fr/books/about/The_Srauta_Sutra_of_Drahyayana_with_the.html?id=iPZ3HAAACAAJ&redir_esc=y <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbooks.google.fr%2Fbooks%2Fabout%2FThe_Srauta_Sutra_of_Drahyayana_with_the.html%3Fid%3DiPZ3HAAACAAJ%26redir_esc%3Dy&data=05%7C01%7Clubint%40wlu.edu%7Ca0628be9a50f47a8cc4208da5cc99f96%7Cd1a80622a99943e58eb67873905e939e%7C1%7C1%7C637924318287118386%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=EAvoYz7ID7iL9VmFONSfe74UNiHYJRa9ikEmEsRasBU%3D&reserved=0>> but I cannot tell whether there actually is no underlying pdf or whether it's just the usual restriction upon access to GoogleBooks from Europe.

So should I try to scan my xerox and upload a pdf to Archive.org?

Best wishes,

Arlo

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*From:*INDOLOGY <[email protected]> on behalf of Asko Parpola via INDOLOGY <[email protected]>
*Sent:* Sunday, July 3, 2022 7:18 AM
*To:* Lubin, Tim <[email protected]>
*Cc:* INDOLOGY <[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] seeking Vaṃśabrāhmaṇa, Burnell ed. and DrāhyāyanaŚS, Reuters ed.

A good pdf of Burnell’s Vaṃsabrāhmaṇa can be downloaded from

http://dbooks.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/books/PDFs/590111097.pdf <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdbooks.bodleian.ox.ac.uk%2Fbooks%2FPDFs%2F590111097.pdf&data=05%7C01%7Clubint%40wlu.edu%7Ca0628be9a50f47a8cc4208da5cc99f96%7Cd1a80622a99943e58eb67873905e939e%7C1%7C1%7C637924318287118386%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Qyf1GOO3tkQduZbD0Xusx15zOK5K3uI2jxGG8CcrhFM%3D&reserved=0>

J. N. Reuter’s The Śrauta-Sūtra of Drāhyāyaṇa with the commentary of Dhanvin, Part I, was supposed to appear as part 25:2 of Acta Societatis Scientiarum Fennicae, but it never did. Because devanagari printing could not be done in Finland, the book was typeset in London, and a very limited number of copies were published by Luzac & Co. in London in 1904.

Best wishes, Asko



    On 2. Jul 2022, at 23.23, Lubin, Tim <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Thanks, Guy. That is it.  I don’t have access to download from
    Hathi, but the Hathi page helpfully points to the same volume on
    Google Books, which I myself had failed to find:

    https://books.google.com/books?vid=Harvard:32044004802245
    
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    One down, one to go.

    Best,
    TL

    *From:*"Guy St. Amant" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>
    *Date:*Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 4:13 PM
    *To:*"Lubin, Tim" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    *Subject:*Re: [INDOLOGY] seeking Vaṃśabrāhmaṇa, Burnell ed. and
    DrāhyāyanaŚS, Reuters ed.

    Dear Professor Lubin,

    I think thefirst of these
    
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    haven't had any luck looking for the second, though.

    Hope all is well!

    Guy

    On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 at 22:55, Lubin, Tim <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Colleagues,

        If any of you have a good PDF of either or both of these two old
        (out-of-copyright) volumes, which inexplicably are not made
        available on Google books, and elude me in Archive and in DLI as
        well, please share, ideally by uploading to Archive:

        A. C. Burnell,/The Vaṁçabrāhmaṇa/, Mangalore 1873.

        J. N. Reuters,/The Śrautasūtra of Drāhyāyaṇa with the commentary
        of Dhanvin/, London 1904.

        With thanks,

        Tim

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