Hi Wayne,

>
> Hi Petr,
>
> Me again.  Apologize that I overlooked this part of your comment.
>
> In order to refresh my memory with IIIM, I specifically installed build 98 on 
> one of our machines.  There are quite substantial improvements from build 95 
> in at least a couple of areas, and in two days of playing around, I did not 
> experience crash.  This is a very significant improvement.
>
> However, there are still some glitches.  The problem is, it happens so 
> erratically, I couldn't duplicate any of them.  But I was at least able to 
> take screenshot of one glitch, as shown in the following screenshot:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/iiimf2

I didn't see where the glitch is, the first screenshot there are three
files in "Recent documents..."
the first is "president and national chairman Hu, Jintao.odt" in
simplified Chinese
the second is "president Hu, Jintao.odt" in traditional Chinese
the third is a letter to a attorney office.
I can read all three file names without a problem

The second screenshot shows you are replying a firefox/odt thread
recently, no glitch either. since there isn't any chinese characters
being input.

The third and fourth screenshot show you're trying to input "Women and
Children" in Chinese, given the first character "Women" is input
correctly, the next choice should be the third candidate.

Honestly I didn't get the glitch you would like to point out with
these four screenshots. I was interested in helping explain the
glitches, but couldn't with the screenshots.

And original URL is just fine, I am not sure about others, but I
prefer to see the URL in its unabridged form than tinyurl'ised one.

Regards,
Ivan.


>
> It is difficult to describe the problem in words.  But if you know Chinese 
> (or know someone who knows Chinese), you will instantly identify the problem, 
> and it can be damned serious.  It's almost like you try to type the letter x, 
> but get letter z instead--close, but embarrassingly wrong.  Maybe it was just 
> an unlucky day for me.  But for myself, unfortunately, I will never dare to 
> suggest this LiveCD to anyone important.
>
> Again, I was so excited to see all the improvements in IIIM in build 98 until 
> I came across this glitch.  In comparison, I have played with SCIM for about 
> a couples of weeks now (since build 98 came out), and have not experienced 
> any problem.
>
> IIIM may be (and may not be) technically superior to SCIM, but since the 
> latter is the default IM in essentially all major Linux distros (including 
> Debian--which means Ubuntu and its variants, RedHat, Fedora, Mandrive, SuSE, 
> etc.), it has enjoyed the fruits of being an open-sourced project for at 
> least several years.  In comparison, although IIIM is also an open-source 
> project, it was essentially a one-way street.
>
> I really believe this issue is very important.  As such, I am very 
> disappointed that whoever is responsible for making the decision has not 
> given it the kind of consideration it deserves, if any at all.
>
> For example, you mentioned European languages and Sun Ray.  I really don't 
> know why they became an issue at all since we are talking about the 
> "OpenSolaris LiveCD", which does not include any European language, and has 
> nothing to do with Sun Ray.
>
> As a Solaris 10 user, I am fully aware that IIIM has been included in Solaris 
> for several years.  However, Solaris is primarily a server OS, it has a 
> different intended user base than the OpenSolaris LiveCD (emphasis on the 
> LiveCD), and developers are more tolerant and less choosy about IM.  Plus, 
> Solaris uses Posix-C as its default locale, in which you can't even trigger 
> IM.  OTOH, if you think there are no complaints, please go back to some of 
> the old Jive archives, and you will find there is at least someone (yours 
> truly) who has been screaming bloody murder about the inadequacy of IM in 
> Solaris.
>
> With respect to the lack of complaints in OpenSolaris.  Since there is no one 
> using OpenSolaris in China (AFAIK), of course you don't get no complaint from 
> nobody.
>
> Now that IIIM has been improved to the extent that it may now be considered 
> usable for the Chinese language, we may indeed begin to receive "complaints". 
>  This IMO is a very major improvement.  However, I just wish this moment 
> could have come a little bit sooner, so that it can be further improved to 
> the extent that it is safe to be widely distributed as one of the most 
> important tools in the OpenSolaris LiveCD.
> --
> This message posted from opensolaris.org
>
>
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