Zitat von Michael M Slusarz <slus...@horde.org>:

Quoting Samuel Wolf <sam...@sheepflock.de>:

Zitat von Michael M Slusarz <slus...@horde.org>:

Quoting sam...@sheepflock.de:

Hi,

I update yesterday to the current horde release (horde 5.1.5, imp 
6.1.5,..) and see this error today when I print a mail:
2013-10-30T15:16:49+00:00 EMERG: HORDE [imp] Diese Anfrage konnte 
nicht durchgeführt werden, weil der Link oder das Formular, das Sie 
abgeschickt haben, nur 30 Minuten gültig war. Bitte versuchen Sie es 
jetzt noch einmal. [pid 18110 on line 167 of 
"/usr/share/php/Horde/Token/Base.php"]

Switch Horde app, mailfolder or message (sorry can not remember) and 
it work again.
Somebody a idea what went wrong?
Some timeout, because it work over hours before...

Increase your token timeout.

This one?
conf.php:$conf['urls']['token_lifetime'] = 30;

Yes.

I'm wondering if we shouldn't get rid of this entirely and simply revert to per session tokens. At least for authenticated people. (And even for guest users, we are assuming that have a session when accessing application resources, right? )

For example: It's not that uncommon to open a message, get distracted, and then try to open a token-protected URL more than 30 minutes later.

Exactly this is the problem.
My users open IMP, Kronolith,... in different browser tabs and do not work with IMP some times for an hour. After this time they will get this error in IMP, but switch to Kronolith (in the IMP browser tab) and back to
IMP solve the problem.

Samuel


Session tokens are designed to prevent *static* CSRF attacks. Having a session-length token prevents these attacks.

Changing tokens within the session is meant to prevent *dynamic* attacks. I don't think we gain much since if an attacker has to somehow gain access to your session information and grab the token to perform the attack 1) they are probably going to launch a more direct attack anyway (since, to get this information, they have likely gained access through a different security hole), and 2) it won't even reach this point, since an attacker will switch to another service that doesn't token protect in the first place.

michael

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