Hi,

Thanx for the answer, I tried, but didn't solve my problem.
I tried to remove the statement, and to replace it by :
        $this->addHeader('X-Mailer', 'Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0');
to have something closer than from Outlook :

Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: from atlantis.itexcom.fr ([unix socket])
         by atlantis.itexcom.fr (Cyrus v2.3.7-Invoca-RPM-2.3.7-1.1.el5) with 
LMTPA;
         Mon, 21 Apr 2008 05:07:06 +0200
X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.3
Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1])
        by atlantis.itexcom.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 076A05880A;
        Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:07:06 +0000 (UTC)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at example.com
Received: from atlantis.itexcom.fr ([127.0.0.1])
        by localhost (atlantis.itexcom.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
        with ESMTP id JhRZ1QSY-pAC; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 05:07:05 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from mail.cybergaia.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
        by atlantis.itexcom.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E66758EA0;
        Mon, 21 Apr 2008 05:07:05 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from www.cybergaia.org (www.cybergaia.org [82.247.77.102]) by
        mail.universe-it.fr (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Mon, 21 Apr 2008
        05:07:05 +0200
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 05:07:05 +0200
From: Sebastien Rozier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: test
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
        boundary="=_292fm37lptxc"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0

Still not working :-(   


-----Message d'origine-----
De : Graeme Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Envoyé : dimanche 20 avril 2008 18:53
À : Sebastien Rozier
Cc : [email protected]
Objet : Re: [imp] IMP, Outlook and Hotmail

Hi,

I think the problem is this:

User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6)

I had the same problem until I disabled the User-Agent header from  
being inserted. hotmail seems to object to it and discards mail if  
this is set. Of course, there is no warning that this is happening and  
nothing gets put in your spam folder, it just disappears. Try  
commenting out the User-Agent addHeader statement in lib/Horde/MIME/ 
Headers.php and see if that cures it.

Graeme



On 20 Apr 2008, at 15:32, Sebastien Rozier wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I browsed the list and googled the net, I know this has already been  
> discussed a lot and th e official position is «this is not MUA  
> problem but hotmail problem » , BUT :
> - My configuration is a public internet mail server running postfix  
> + cyrus imap
> - Relaying using SMTP is denied except for localhost and my public  
> IP address
> - Relaying using SMTP is allowed when user is AUTHentified over TLS.
> - Horde/IMP is running on the same server
>
> When I send a mail from outlook to hotmail address, mail is sent  
> through my server (elaying is OK since I’m AUTHentified) and I  
> receive it in my hotmail mailbox
> ⇒ No DNS, postfix configuration… problem from my server or address
> When I send a mail from IMP to hotmail address, mail is silently  
> discarded.
> When I send a mail from hotmail -> my address and reply to this mail  
> from IMP, I receive it in my hotmail mailbox
> ⇒ I think problem is the way IMP forges e-mails (headers ?)
> I ***know*** this is a problem from hotmail, not from horde/IMP nor  
> my configuration.
> But today, hotmail is a « de facto » standard…So, if anyone want  
> to have a look on this, here are the infos
>
> Mail forged from IMP and sent to hotmail (CC myself so that I can  
> receive the mail since hotmails silently discards it) :
> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Received: from atlantis.itexcom.fr ([unix socket])
>        by atlantis.itexcom.fr (Cyrus v2.3.7-Invoca-RPM-2.3.7-1.1.el5)  
> with LMTPA;
>        Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:04:49 +0200
> X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.3
> Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1])
>       by atlantis.itexcom.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB8541E24;
>       Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:04:49 +0000 (UTC)
> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at example.com
> Received: from atlantis.itexcom.fr ([127.0.0.1])
>       by localhost (atlantis.itexcom.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port  
> 10024)
>       with ESMTP id 6XC1Zjf8PO2R; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:04:47 +0200 (CEST)
> Received: from mail.cybergaia.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
>       by atlantis.itexcom.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EA5B41AE7;
>       Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:04:47 +0200 (CEST)
> Received: from www.cybergaia.org (www.cybergaia.org [82.247.77.102])  
> by
>       mail.universe-it.fr (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 20 Apr 2008
>       16:04:47 +0200
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
> Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:04:47 +0200
> From: Sebastien Rozier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: test
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>       boundary="=_2r3gvvkl04u8"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6)
> X-Originating-IP: 82.247.77.102
> X-Remote-Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT  
> 5.1; .NET
>       CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; InfoPath.2; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.30)
>
> Mail forged from Outlook and sent to hotmail (use same relay server  
> than previously and CC myself to show you headers) :
> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Received: from atlantis.itexcom.fr ([unix socket])
>        by atlantis.itexcom.fr (Cyrus v2.3.7-Invoca-RPM-2.3.7-1.1.el5)  
> with LMTPA;
>        Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:10:23 +0200
> X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.3
> Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1])
>       by atlantis.itexcom.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C39941E24;
>       Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:10:23 +0000 (UTC)
> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at example.com
> Received: from atlantis.itexcom.fr ([127.0.0.1])
>       by localhost (atlantis.itexcom.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port  
> 10024)
>       with ESMTP id EUTVI8ozyNsl; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:10:20 +0200 (CEST)
> Received: from BKStation (www.cybergaia.org [82.247.77.102])
>       by atlantis.itexcom.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B48F341AE7;
>       Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:10:20 +0200 (CEST)
> From: "Sebastien Rozier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "'Sebastien Rozier'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: test
> Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:07:51 +0200
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]@cybergaia.org>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>       boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0078_01C8A300.AF80CB00"
> X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0
> Thread-Index: Acii7+tJFgHpd0HIQquigfsvc8K5cg==
> Content-Language: fr
>
> Mail sent from my hotmail address, opened and replied to from Horde/ 
> IMP, received on my hotmail address, and CC myself for source :
> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Received: from atlantis.itexcom.fr ([unix socket])
>        by atlantis.itexcom.fr (Cyrus v2.3.7-Invoca-RPM-2.3.7-1.1.el5)  
> with LMTPA;
>        Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:22:03 +0200
> X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.3
> Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1])
>       by atlantis.itexcom.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ACBE58811;
>       Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:22:03 +0000 (UTC)
> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at example.com
> Received: from atlantis.itexcom.fr ([127.0.0.1])
>       by localhost (atlantis.itexcom.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port  
> 10024)
>       with ESMTP id auQ81mzgbTUS; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:22:01 +0200 (CEST)
> Received: from mail.cybergaia.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
>       by atlantis.itexcom.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3F8758814;
>       Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:22:00 +0200 (CEST)
> Received: from www.cybergaia.org (www.cybergaia.org [82.247.77.102])  
> by
>       mail.universe-it.fr (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 20 Apr 2008
>       16:22:00 +0200
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
> Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:22:00 +0200
> From: Sebastien Rozier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: =?iso-8859-1?b?U+liYXN0aWVu?= Rozier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: test
> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>       boundary="=_7e095y5ha944"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6)
> X-Originating-IP: 82.247.77.102
> X-Remote-Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT  
> 5.1; .NET
>       CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; InfoPath.2; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.30)
>
> And finally, a mail sent from somewhere else using squirrel web mail  
> and arrived in my hotmail mailbox (CC myself to show you source) :
> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Received: from atlantis.itexcom.fr ([unix socket])
>        by atlantis.itexcom.fr (Cyrus v2.3.7-Invoca-RPM-2.3.7-1.1.el5)  
> with LMTPA;
>        Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:55:07 +0200
> X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.3
> Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1])
>       by atlantis.itexcom.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E52741E24
>       for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:55:07  
> +0000 (UTC)
> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at example.com
> Received: from atlantis.itexcom.fr ([127.0.0.1])
>       by localhost (atlantis.itexcom.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port  
> 10024)
>       with ESMTP id bumHWWLqhjcp for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>       Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:55:05 +0200 (CEST)
> Received: from somewhere.else (unknown [1.2.3.4])
>       by atlantis.itexcom.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C000A41AE7
>       for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:55:05  
> +0200 (CEST)
> Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
>       by somewhere.else (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5C85C19F;
>       Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:46:04 +0200 (CEST)
> Received: from somewhere.else ([127.0.0.1])
>       by localhost (somewhere.else [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
>       with ESMTP id 12024-02; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:46:04 +0200 (CEST)
> Received: by somewhere.else (Postfix, from userid 33)
>       id 03C955BE82; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:46:03 +0200 (CEST)
> Received: from 82.230.116.147
>        (SquirrelMail authenticated user [EMAIL PROTECTED])
>        by somewhere.else with HTTP;
>        Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:46:03 +0200 (CEST)
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:46:03 +0200 (CEST)
> Subject: TEST
> From: "Someone Else" <somewhere.else>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
> Importance: Normal
> X-Virus-Scanned: by Somewhere Else mailscan
>
> Thanx a lot for any help you could provide, and go on, I have been  
> using Horde since a long time, it rocks :-) and it’s becoming  
> better and better
> Sebastien
>
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