Dear Niyam,

Thanks for your mail which is giving me mixed feelings about what you
have written.
I was wondering snce evening when I sw your mail as to how can a person
like you make mistake about using the word like "rants" and when I saw
your another mail where you have explained the diferences in different
words and their meaning (old - veteran, marriage - wedding, etc.) I got
it more clear. But still let me ask you clearly :

Why do you use the derogatory word like "rant" to my
comments/mails/issues ? 
While you, like anyone else, have full liberty to have your own views
about everything, doe that give you a right to publicly use derogatory
remarks  against another member of the group ?
Is that how you want things to "return towards civilization" ?

I suggest and request you to please make a note of the fact your using
such words go against the very purpose of your mail and you need to
avoid them.
I trust you will understand the hurt feelings caused by your mail.

Nor regarding the other points:
I had to miss the good & positive meeting of 20th April as I was busy in
making preparation of an event at bangalore which is taking place on 22
& 23. I am looking forward to the minutes etc. to get a fair ides of the
positive things that happened there.

My thanks to Amit who hosted this meet. You see how the people in
Commercial field are open to supporting Linux ? I had also hosted a
meeting at my office in malviya nagar (couldn't afford the
tea-cofee-pizza though) and had offered that the meetings can be held
there at any time (pre-planned). The offer still remains. I had also got
SCO to give their place at CP for the monthly meetings. But all these
things never materialised for the reasons that are raised as the issues
that I am talking of.
And, by the way, to say that my mail was triggered by the mail of Manish
will only mean to ignore the issues being raised.

I also hope the civilised behaviour to be there.

On Mon, 2003-04-21 at 17:22, LinuxLingam wrote:
> dear sudhir,
> 
> been reading your rants on linux-delhi of the last few days triggered
by 
> manish's email.
> 
> simple observations:
> 
> 1) wish  you had attended the ilug-d meet on sunday at effectsoft.
> dr ajay shah gave a brilliant talk on IPR, copyleft, patents, etc.
> obviously, the talk and the subsequent discussion would have been more
> 'holistic' if you were there to present your counter-points as well.
> 
> 2) the 'energy' of linux-delhi is self-evident. our deepest
appreciation to 
> amit of effectsoft, who hosted, on a hot, sunday afternoon, the ilug-d
with 
> over 30 participants, with tea, snacks, some net access, use of a 
> conference/training room, etc. my appreciation deepens when i realized
the 
> eminent dr ajay shah delivered a brilliant and well-researched talk on
IPR, 
> copyleft, patents, at effectsoft, which is into creating proprietory
and 
> non-GPL software on a turn-kay basis, on linux, for its international 
> affliates.
> 
> 3) why don't you do something similar as well? encourage and embrace
the 
> discussion, the more contrasting it is to your viewpoints, the better.
a 
> discussion by leading thinkers, on the future of software end-user
licenses, 
> and busines models for software packages, held/co-organized, etc by
sudhir, 
> with people from all viewpoints, would be excellent.
> and all of us, would finally have the freedom to arrive at our own
individual 
> decisions.
> 
> you have stated that you would like to contribute to the linux
community for 
> what all it has given to you. perhaps this could be one way.
> 
> such an approach hopefully, will also tone down the use of
provocative, 
> sensationalist, terms and phrases.
> 
> i look forward to the return of civilization ushered in by the people
of 
> linux-delhi.
> 
> :-)
> LL

-- 
Peace, Force & Joy!                         Sudhir Gandotra.
     Transform lives: http://humanistmovement.org/
   !!! Treat Others As You Would Have Them Treat You !!!


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