On Saturday 15 March 2003 09:25 am, you wrote:

>
the debate of 'cute' versus/also communicating 'power' is as old as the apple 
macintosh and ibm's charlie chaplin in the computer industry. the penguin is 
just another one of those weird abberations in the industry's thirst for 
'cute'. i wonder why the IT industry is so obsessed with 'cute' motifs?

anyways, my reservations have to do with more than the 'cute' aspect, as 
stated in an earlier email.

> [Just MNSHO] Tux is fine.  Just because something is cute doesn't mean
> it's not powerful.  Look at me!

if there are more people than raj who think raj is cute, speak up. i must 
remember to sit a comfortable and safe distance away from you guys at the 
next ilug meeting.

;-)

>     Vivek> [more snip]
>
>     Vivek> my only concern is that even if a design is selected, how
>     Vivek> are the shirts going to be printed? and how many people are
>     Vivek> ready to shell out 100 bucks per shirt?
>
> I am, or more than 100 if you make black T-shirts with collars.  Is
> that doable?

exactly, a black tee-shirt, with collars, even a breast pocket for keeping 
id-tags, cigarette boxes, pens, smartcards/usb drives with gpg keys, 
preferred. by the way, such a tee-shirt is still acceptable to wear into some 
company premises, thus making it easier to carry the ilug-d message further.

working out a black penguin logo on a black tee-shirt needs thinking. a white 
outline may not look too good, perhaps a reverse would be better. i dunno.

and yes, i will pay for the tee-shirt. we just need to make them in different 
sizes, though.

:-)
LL

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