stuff without the > sign is what Atul wrote. regards, Gami
---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 22:32:01 +0530 From: Arjun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Dhruv Gami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re[2]: [ilugd]: Helping India's economy : A Free/Libre Open Source Software promotion scheme Dear Dhruv, Read answers inline. Best regards, Atul [EMAIL PROTECTED] °°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°° Thursday, February 20, 2003, 10:35:28 PM, you wrote: DG> On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Arjun wrote: >> sysadmins. Create a CD which will meet all the requirements >> of class IX, X, XI,XII syllabii. Help schools have atleast >> one system administrator. Teachers may be interested since >> quite a few are sick of kids deleting *.* and they having to >> load Windows again. Do similar for all kinds of colleges : >> Tech, MBA, Computer training institutes etc. DG> Hi Atul, DG> That was a well organised summary of all the activities that a DG> LUG/FLOSS Promoter can hope to get into. But getting to reality, DG> you havent mentioned how you aim to generate funding for all the DG> ideas that you've put across. Also, do we have enough manpower to DG> carry out all the tasks ? As far as i know, most of the people on DG> ILUG-D are working professionals who use the list for DG> recreational/technological/social/commercial purposes and most of DG> them do not have time to spare for voluntary activities (and that DG> includes me too). It includes me too. However, I am majorly looking at (i) The service providers butting in on paid basis. This requires locating Linux sys-integrators and service providers hence a request to all the ilugd members and LFY for locating them. They can load/install and configure Linux (like its done for windoz presently). (ii) Training the teachers is a major task and I think if 52 of us can help, one or two of us can devote a day/two days a year to do the job of training teachers. I can ask my wife to do the co-ordination. (iii) I guess these activities can be managed with minimal funding, if any (or do we foresee funds requirements ?). DG> One aspect of the plan that you mentioned was going to schools and DG> educating them (quoted above). Linux Access Project was started by DG> Linux Delhi in collaboration with Sarai, with the hope of taking DG> linux to schools, and carrying on the activities that you also DG> have thought of. It seemed like a wonderful idea, and many people DG> lauded us on taking on such a noble initiative. But as it turned DG> out, apart from 8-10 people, nobody was interested to contribute DG> and make the plan work. (i) I agree, this may happen again. Lets try and fill the gap by asking service providers to do this at a minimal charge/one day training paid by school. (ii) Suggest otherways? Can we look at Delhi govt for help? Or Shikshaindia or Arun Shourie? Any one with any links???? DG> Some of the problems that this LAP team faced were : DG> 1. Funding DG> 2. Lack of support (technical) that could be given to schools DG> 3. Lack of initiative by members of the LUG. we needed more people to go DG> around and talk to schools etc. I will try and make NPS available for demos. For tech support, the service provider should be used (which any way is done presently for win PCs) failing standard ilug mail support to service provider. Another way is to locate bright students (there will be some) and put them on selflearn mode with email support from ilugd/books and the documents on the web, this may be more workable (works in my son's case) since the kids are curious and will like to do something new. So train the teacher(s) and two bright kids and empower them to use books/email/web to learn further and support their school (I'll also like to include service provider's guy in training). For marketing Linux to schools, lets get the NPS project publicised (when completed) with TOI (which is distributed in lots of schools) or other mags. However, we should target only non-govt schools since govt schools are tied down by govt regs and may not have sufficient infra. My son will be available twice, for 2 days a week (sat/sun) and I'll be available for atleast two days a month for this project. All of us can talk to our schools/colleges (the ones we studied in) etc. to promote Linux and take our own schools/colleges as the target for conversion. I'll try for funding. But can we work threadbare? DG> Despite this, there have been untiring efforts by Leo, Supreet, DG> Tripta, Raj and others in trying to reach our goals. Thats what drives the Linux community. Its commendable. DG> If you have some novel ideas on how to tackle these problems, or DG> have some source of heavy funding then im sure lots of things can DG> be worked out and make possible. Hope we can make a try :-) DG> hoping to hear from you on this. DG> regards, DG> Gami ================================================ To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in subject header. Check archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd%40wpaa.org