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On 7 Jul 2013 21:47, "Kumar Appaiah" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi.
>
> On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 08:41:43PM +0530, Karthikeyan A.K wrote:
> > Well, I wish I could have told something better. But when ever I do
> > something good, this group has always found faults with it. It was so
> > demoralizing.
>
> Personally, I have realised two things on online fora. The first one
> is that attitudes and emotions cannot be conveyed fully over text. So,
> a genuine, harmless suggestion to follow list rules could come off as
> being an order. So, the second thing I've learnt is that one ought to
> cultivate a thick skin and be ready to learn.
>
> > Any way I have the tenacity to fight back the rotten old people (old here
> > means old minds, definitely not age) who dominate this group. But the
> > youngsters simply choose the ignore option. Kill this group, let the
> young
> > ones start something of their own.
>
> There are a couple of things here. Your attitude of fighting back is,
> if anything, worse than the very shortcomings you allude to. For
> instance, let's take top-posting as an example. It has been pointed
> out several times that top-posting is not considered appropriate on
> this list, in various tones and with different levels of vigour. Yet,
> you don't seem to like it, and continue to top-post. I am guessing
> that that you view this as a mark of defiance. That probably makes you
> feel happy, but to the people who prefer that the list recommendations
> be adhered to, it is very inconvenient and unnerving. And all it
> achieves is to anger more people, than improve the situation. Now, if
> you did back down from your position and comply with list rules, we
> could stop having these endless arguments and focus on useful
> discussions.
>
> > This group is like Indian National Congress after independence. Quiet
> > useless other than 1 or 2 things. What to say! Even very good people in
> > India want the young ones to obey boring customs. Better they perish.
>
> I don't have an appetite for political commentary. However, note that
> you are quite free to start your own list with the values and ideals
> you consider important. If you do create a forum that you think would
> be more appropriate for like minded people, please announce it
> here. That way, we needn't argue constantly and raise tempers, and
> people needn't be held back by the whims and traditions of the members
> of this list.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Kumar
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