2009/11/22 <[email protected]> > Send ilugc mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of ilugc digest..." > > > ***DO NOT REPLY TO THE DIGEST MESSAGES*** > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. .a-tip-a-day. (script - record input and output from a > terminal) (Girish Venkatachalam) > 2. Re: WANTED: Students who want to learn OpenGL / Qt (Shrinivasan T) > 3. IBM and the indian debacle (anirudh singh shekhawat) > 4. I shall send the language tip a bit late (Girish Venkatachalam) > 5. [jobs] Artha42 is looking for passionate hackers (Vagmi Mudumbai) > 6. Re: IBM and the indian debacle (Mano) > 7. Re: IBM and the indian debacle (anirudh singh shekhawat) > 8. Re: IBM and the indian debacle (Arun SAG) > 9. why Winamp is not available for Linux platform ? > (Selvakumar Rajeswaran) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:18:42 +0530 > From: Girish Venkatachalam <[email protected]> > Subject: [Ilugc] .a-tip-a-day. (script - record input and output from > a terminal) > To: Indian Linux User Group Chennai <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > $ script /tmp/output.txt > > will start a new shell and redirect all the input and output commands > to the file /tmp/output.txt > > You need not give a filename as argument. > > This is a simple but very powerful command and can be used for a > variety of debugging tasks. > > If you wish to have a key recorder program, you are looking for > ttyrec(1) and ttyplay(1). > > -Girish > > -- > Gayatri Hitech > web: http://gayatri-hitech.com > > SpamCheetah Spam filter: > http://spam-cheetah.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:44:12 +0530 > From: Shrinivasan T <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Ilugc] WANTED: Students who want to learn OpenGL / Qt > To: ILUG-C <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > > in future please mention a forward - I thought the mail came from you > > sure. > > Thanks. > > > > -- > Regards, > T.Shrinivasan > > > My experiences with Linux are here > http://goinggnu.wordpress.com > > For Free and Open Source Jobs > http://fossjobs.wordpress.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:49:54 +0530 > From: anirudh singh shekhawat <[email protected]> > Subject: [Ilugc] IBM and the indian debacle > To: fedora-india <[email protected]>, [email protected] > Cc: [email protected], ilugd <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > Everyone feared IBM in the good old days, when guys in black suits and tie > would either make you go out of business or buy you off the hook. IBM guys > were considered evil big brothers, who were ruthless and sung company > songs. > So anyways IBM seemed to have changed quite a lot in recent years and we > all > know its open support towards free and open source mentality, and anyways I > am here to talk about what is it doing right now which actually violates > that very philosophy. > > There is a very popular competition which IBM runs in india called TGMC > (The > great mind challenge) [1] for students. Well that is all good but the > tricky > part comes here. IBM only accepts projects made using its technology i.e. > the tools which only IBM provides to the educational institute you are in > and yes, they dont give these tools to individuals, they can only be > acquired once your institute is in the program and it so happens that IBM > after sending its big boys to your institute and, your college will soon > will make it compulsory for everyone in the final year to make their major > projects for IBM, and my college is one of them and we are stuck with > making > our major projects in TGMC if we want or not. > > The tools to be used are : Rational Rose/RSA > RAD/Eclipse/WSAD/ WebSphere Portal > WAS/WAS CE > DB2 Express – ‘C’ or DB2 UDB > > and as it seems that you cant do this project without IBM's help. But what > is more important are the Terms and Conditions, what it has imposed on all > student developers working on it, here is an interesting one :- > > "By submitting entries, entrant grants IBM and their agents of the program > the right to publish, use, adapt, sell, edit and/or modify such entry in > any > way, in commerce and in any and all media worldwide, including but not > limited to the Internet, without limitation and without compensation to the > entrants. Entrant also grants IBM worldwide irrevocable, nonexclusive and > royalty-free right and license to use, have used, copy, reproduce, > transfer, > modify and/or display any information contained in their entry in whole or > part and in any form without compensation." for a complete set of Terms and > Conditions [2] > > Woah!! So that means you dont own your work, it just does not belong to > you. > I wonder what is this giant teaching young students on this country. And > what is this policy where, on one hand its promoting open source and on the > other its doing this. > > And this is not limited to my college alone, I know a lot many college in > jaipur, rajasthan, india which have fallen for this and have made it > mandatory for their students to work on it. > > [1] http://tgmc.in > > [2] https://tgmc.in/terms_conditions.php?id=8 > > regards > Acedip > > -- > My web home http://acedip.in > Linux Users Group Jaipur http://lugj.in > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > Version: 3.1 > GCS/FA/L/MU/P/S !d s:- a-- C UL P++ L+++ E- W++ N++ o K-- w--- O- M- V PS > PE > Y PGP t 5 X R tv b DI D G e h+ r- y++ > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:59:17 +0530 > From: Girish Venkatachalam <[email protected]> > Subject: [Ilugc] I shall send the language tip a bit late > To: Indian Linux User Group Chennai <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I am a bit delayed. You should have the language tip in another 5 hours. > > Or worst case tomorrow. > > Thanks. > > -Girish > > -- > Gayatri Hitech > web: http://gayatri-hitech.com > > SpamCheetah Spam filter: > http://spam-cheetah.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:37:28 +0530 > From: Vagmi Mudumbai <[email protected]> > Subject: [Ilugc] [jobs] Artha42 is looking for passionate hackers > To: ILUG-C <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi, > > Artha42 Technology Solutions (http://www.artha42.com) is looking for > passionate hackers. We are a technology startup in the software > services space. We ourselves are a small team of spirited and > passionate technophiles. We are currently looking for young and > passionate hackers who can make the journey with us. We are interested > in hackers in the early stages of their careers (0 to 2 years of > experience). > > You see, we at Artha42 believe that software development is a craft > rather than an engineering discipline. We work on interesting projects > both in the enterprise as well as in the commercial space. We are > fiercly passionate about open source software. We believe that > software is not about requirements documents and code but much more > than that. It is an intrinsic and intricate process of modelling the > solution in the mind. The documents and code are just artefacts in the > real world that represent the model in the mind. > > We are a bit biased towards ruby (not rails) currently. We find it a > good fit for most of the work that we do. That said we cannot ignore > the world's most popular language[1]. > > We are journeymen looking for fellow travellers. If you would like to > join us in this journey, please drop in a line to vagmi <at> artha42 > dot com. Send us your profile and we will definitely get in touch with > you. > > Regards, > Vagmi > > http://blog.vagmim.com > “There are two ways of constructing a software design. One way is to > make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies. And the > other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious > deficiencies." C.A.R. Hoare. > > > [1]: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000857.html > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:09:07 +0530 > From: Mano <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Ilugc] IBM and the indian debacle > To: ILUG-C <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 5:49 PM, anirudh singh shekhawat < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Woah!! So that means you dont own your work, it just does not belong to > > you. > > I wonder what is this giant teaching young students on this country. And > > what is this policy where, on one hand its promoting open source and on > the > > other its doing this. > > > > And this is not limited to my college alone, I know a lot many college in > > jaipur, rajasthan, india which have fallen for this and have made it > > mandatory for their students to work on it. > > > > IBM is a commercial org and expecting it to be well behaved forever is > naive. More to blame are the college authorities that sold all your rights. > If they are pvt self financing colleges, it is not surprising because many > have not even heard of the concept called 'student rights'!! > > regds, > mano > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:15:08 +0530 > From: anirudh singh shekhawat <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Ilugc] IBM and the indian debacle > To: ILUG-C <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > IBM is a commercial org and expecting it to be well behaved forever is > > naive. More to blame are the college authorities that sold all your > rights. > > > yes, but then one should only put their money where their mouth is. IBM > should not support open source if they cant simply stick to it in a simple > student's competition. And what more can we expect from colleges > authorities > if big organizations like IBM are slapping open source right there in front > of everyone, no doubt colleges are also part of it anyways, and this is no > blame game. > > Ace' > > > -- > My web home http://acedip.in > Linux Users Group Jaipur http://lugj.in > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > Version: 3.1 > GCS/FA/L/MU/P/S !d s:- a-- C UL P++ L+++ E- W++ N++ o K-- w--- O- M- V PS > PE > Y PGP t 5 X R tv b DI D G e h+ r- y++ > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:18:20 +0530 > From: Arun SAG <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Ilugc] IBM and the indian debacle > To: ILUG-C <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Mano <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >IBM is a commercial org and expecting it to be well behaved forever is > > >naive. > > > > Linux contractor fired for using Linux and firefox , guess who did it? > http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2009/11/linux-contractor-fired-for-using.html > -- > SAGA > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:18:35 -0800 (PST) > From: Selvakumar Rajeswaran <[email protected]> > Subject: [Ilugc] why Winamp is not available for Linux platform ? > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi Lugies, > > I tried Winamp download but ironically it is not available for linux > platform. > > Why such a most popular software is not available for equivalently most > popular linux platform ?. > > Basically, is Winamp an Open-source project or closed-source ? > > If it is open-source possibly we can try to atleast port it to linux. > > If anyone have come across on this pls give me directions. > > Thanks, > Selvakumar > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > ilugc mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc > > > End of ilugc Digest, Vol 66, Issue 81 > ************************************* >
hi Selvakumar, Which flavour of linux are you using? Try Audacious if you're in any new platforms, still you may have to circumvent the mp3 codec license issue...! Its the old XMMS in new bottle.. BTW, if you're serious about Os try converting you existing collection to OGG vorbis and distribute only OGG..as its royality free... Thanks, Ramkumar _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, email [email protected] with "unsubscribe <password> <address>" in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
