On Tuesday 13 Oct 2009 7:46:08 am Girish Venkatachalam wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Tuesday 13 Oct 2009 6:59:05 am Girish Venkatachalam wrote:
> >> Firebug is very very very powerful. ;)
> >
> > I have personally found firebug useless - apache log files are far more
> > effective in debugging problems with css and js - 90% of these problems
> > in production are to do with paths. Since both css and js fail silently,
> > the 404 errors will be found in the apache access logs and not in the
> > error logs. As for other javascript errors, these should be debugged
> > before putting them in production.
>
> Dear KG,
>
> If you nurse somewhat "negative" views in your heart,
>  it is best that you not out them thereby discouraging
> would be learners.

why will they get discouraged? if they want to learn new things, they should 
have courage to learn.
>
> People who have never heard about firebug before will
> get a chance to look at it. That is the purpose of my tip.
>
> But after reading your post, they may feel that it was
> not worth their while to take a look.

they also may think they should prove me wrong
>
> By the way your argument is wrong too.
>
> I shall explain.
>
> Apache logs only tell you traffic stats and referrers and
> of course 404 errors and web server problems. Problems
> with configuring Apache.
>
> But firebug is a javascript development and CSS development
> tool.
>
> Have you done serious web development with javascript?

no - as mentioned above, this is my personal point of view
>
> It can be really painful since it is as rich a language as C
> in certain ways.
>
> You most definitely need a friend like firebug.

I do not - others may do
>
> And I never said that you should use firebug after you have
> the code in production. You debug it whilst developing.

nice explanation here: http://www.evotech.net/blog/2007/06/introduction-to-
firebug/

-- 
regards
kg
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