On Thursday 10 Sep 2009 8:24:46 pm Prem Kurian Philip wrote:
> Since we are on the topic of frameworks, have you looked at Scala and the
> Lift Framework? What I find amazing is the performance - it is on par or
> slightly faster than plain Java on many benchmarks. To put that in
> perspective, it is several times faster than groovy, ruby and python. This
> is because scala runs directly on the JVM.
>
> Take a look:
> http://liftweb.net/

frankly I am too old to learn a new language, and am happy with django and 
python
>
> By the way, I have done considerable programming on python and have used
> plone. Fact is, I have used plone to run our own intranet here at
> Songbird. I think it is an excellent framework - but a bit complicated to
> customize.

if you want to customise, forget plone. But it is good for quick and dirty 
sites where you can leave the hard work for the user. Another nice thing is 
that you just need one plone installation per server - you can create multiple 
plone sites and manage the domains with the VHM. And if you upgrade, you just 
need to upgrade one installation. As far as I can see, drupal requires a 
separate copy for each site - I may be wrong. If I am right, then running 10 
sites on the server and making 50 hot fixes in 2009 - I will be doing 500 
separate maintainance upgrades in a period of 9 months! I will need to hire an 
engineer just to do this. The same 10 sites could run on one install of django 
- which can be upgraded with a simple 'svn up' - and that can be put in cron 
and run once a month or so. So I would conclude that drupal is a good tool for 
an enlightened end user who just running one or two sites - but not an option 
for a professional who is maintaining a large number of sites. I have one app 
running on django on webfaction which is in daily active use - I have not 
visited it or touched it in any way for the last two years.
>
> If you prefer using Python and like more speed, you can look at the
> upcoming Cobra language.
> http://cobra-language.com/docs/python/
>
> They are porting this to work over the jvm as well. May be interesting to
> port Django over to use Cobra. Cobra and python are similar enough and so
> it may not be that difficult.

probably some one will do it - I think django is already ported to jython and 
ipython

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kg
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