On 09/10/13 14:14, Ted Lemon wrote:
> On Oct 9, 2013, at 6:45 AM, Tobias Gondrom <tobias.gond...@gondrom.org> wrote:
>> But I support SM's proposal that it would be good
>> to do a few days comment period for such important statements in the
>> future - if timing is not critical. There is no harm in a few days delay
>> and getting input from the community.
> This is a nice theory, but the usual last call time at IETF is either two 
> weeks or four weeks, not a few days, and that's for a good reason.  I think 
> there is no way that a statement of the type we are discussing can ever 
> represent IETF consensus unless we go through an actual consensus call.
>
> So the real question here is, is it ever appropriate for the chair of the IAB 
> or the chair of the IETF to sign a statement like this without getting 
> consensus?   I think that's a good question, and I don't have a strong 
> opinion on the answer.   But if the answer is that we need consensus, then we 
> actually need to do a consensus call.
>
> The only value I see in "a few days" would be an opportunity for 
> wordsmithing—as someone pointed out, the current statement could be read as 
> expressing concern that secrets were leaked, rather than concern about what 
> was done in secret, and it would have been nice if that wording could have 
> been corrected.   If that is what you were asking for, then that does make 
> sense.
>
> (thinking out loud...)
>

Yes, that is what is was thinking about. Probably wisdom of the crowds
could have helped with the wordsmithing part.
And in my view even some little feedback (3-7 days) is better than none.
And just to be clear: with such a short comment option, the goal is just
comments not to get a rough consensus.

All the best, Tobias

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