1/ I believe that change would be factually incorrect

2/ I do not see that being factually correct about what happened says anything 
about
    the community opinion about any future IESG decision to change processes.

Scott

On Sep 17, 2013, at 6:48 PM, Pete Resnick <presn...@qti.qualcomm.com> wrote:

> On 9/17/13 11:27 AM, Olaf Kolkman wrote:
>> I just posted the third version of the draft at:
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kolkman-proposed-standards-clarified-02
> 
> I would like to change "IESG" to "IETF" in five places:
> 
> Section 1:
> 
> "the IESG has evolved its review processes"
> 
> Section 2:
> 
> "IESG Reveiew of Proposed Standards"
> "the IESG strengthened its review"
> "last chance for the IESG to ensure the quality"
> "cross-area technical review performed by the IESG"
> 
> The IETF as a whole, through directorate reviews, area reviews, doctor 
> reviews, *and* IESG reviews, has evolved, strengthened, ensured, etc., its 
> reviews.
> 
> Saying "the IESG" in these places implies precedent setting that I think 
> would be bad. If the IETF capitulated to the IESG changing the rules on its 
> own in the past, so be it, but I think it would be bad to indicate in a BCP 
> that we think it's OK for the IESG to do so unilaterally.
> 
> pr
> 
> -- 
> Pete Resnick<http://www.qualcomm.com/~presnick/>
> Qualcomm Technologies, Inc. - +1 (858)651-4478
> 

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