Hey Joe,

On 8/6/13 7:41 PM, Joe Abley wrote:
> An example of (2) can be found in 
> <http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/87/slides/slides-87-dnsop-8.pdf> where I 
> presented a one-slide problem statement that consisted entirely filled with 
> an xkcd cartoon. Once the room is suitably filled with hilarity, it's much 
> easier to enrage people with your stupid idea.
>
> I don't think that having slides available in advance helps significantly 
> with (1) in an ietf context (where we are continuing a conversation from a 
> list, and not generally introducing new material). (2) is not really 
> pertinent for a remote audience (if they've bothered to attend at all, you 
> can surely assume they are paying attention.)

What?  People remotely can't read email?  Heck we can do more than
that.  We can cook a meal.  Try that while an IETF is going on.

>
> Many people use slideware as a teleprompter so that they can remember what to 
> say at the mic. I've done that before. I'm not proud of it.

But if those lines contain *questions*, it gets you to the point where
there is discussion, which is just fine, as you point out here:
>
> The best outcome at a working group meeting is that, as a presenter, you 
> spend most of your time listening rather than talking. If the mic line is 
> empty, you probably should not have been on the agenda.
>

100% agree.

Eliot

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