Hi Kathleen, > think. The tutorials is an interesting idea. I think youtube videos may be > effective as well without having to schedule meetings for tutorials.
I think the IETF leadership is already looking after this. Have a look at: http://iaoc.ietf.org/ http://www.ietf.org/edu/process-oriented-tutorials.html#newcomers http://www.ietf.org/edu/process-oriented-tutorials.html#wgleadership http://www.ietf.org/edu/process-oriented-tutorials.html#creatingids http://www.ietf.org/edu/technical-tutorials.html#netconfandyang http://www.ietf.org/edu/technical-tutorials.html#opsandmanagement http://www.ietf.org/edu/technical-tutorials.html#routing http://www.ietf.org/edu/technical-tutorials.html#security All of these have been recorded at recent IETF meetings, and some of them will be re-recorded at an enhanced quality level in order to improve the quality of experience for the end users. Cheers, Simon > > Thanks, > Kathleen > > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of John > C Klensin > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 11:17 AM > To: Phillip Hallam-Baker; Simon Pietro Romano > Cc: Keith Moore; ietf@ietf.org > Subject: Re: IETF registration fee? > > > > --On Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:34 -0400 Phillip Hallam-Baker > <hal...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> ... >> Using paid conferences as a profit center is a risky long term >> prospect at best. Refusing to adapt the format of the >> conferences to protect the profit center worse. > > Or adapting the format to attract more paying attendees, such a > what we have sometimes called "tourists", with no real > expectation that they will do work, because it increases the > income. > > Still better than building a funding structure based on sale of > publications, however :-( > > john > > > > > > _\\|//_ ( O-O ) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~o00~~(_)~~00o~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Simon Pietro Romano Universita' di Napoli Federico II Computer Engineering Department Phone: +39 081 7683823 -- Fax: +39 081 7683816 e-mail: sprom...@unina.it <<Molti mi dicono che lo scoraggiamento Ë l'alibi degli idioti. Ci rifletto un istante; e mi scoraggio>>. Magritte. oooO ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~( )~~~ Oooo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ \ ( ( ) \_) ) / (_/