Hi Kathleen,

> think.  The tutorials is an interesting idea.  I think youtube videos may be 
> effective as well without having to schedule meetings for tutorials.

I think the IETF leadership is already looking after this. Have a look at:

http://iaoc.ietf.org/
http://www.ietf.org/edu/process-oriented-tutorials.html#newcomers
http://www.ietf.org/edu/process-oriented-tutorials.html#wgleadership
http://www.ietf.org/edu/process-oriented-tutorials.html#creatingids
http://www.ietf.org/edu/technical-tutorials.html#netconfandyang
http://www.ietf.org/edu/technical-tutorials.html#opsandmanagement
http://www.ietf.org/edu/technical-tutorials.html#routing
http://www.ietf.org/edu/technical-tutorials.html#security

All of these have been recorded at recent IETF meetings, and some of them will 
be re-recorded at an enhanced quality level in order to improve the quality of 
experience for the end users.

Cheers,

Simon

> 
> Thanks,
> Kathleen
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of John 
> C Klensin
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 11:17 AM
> To: Phillip Hallam-Baker; Simon Pietro Romano
> Cc: Keith Moore; ietf@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: IETF registration fee?
> 
> 
> 
> --On Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:34 -0400 Phillip Hallam-Baker
> <hal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> ...
>> Using paid conferences as a profit center is a risky long term
>> prospect at best. Refusing to adapt the format of the
>> conferences to protect the profit center worse. 
> 
> Or adapting the format to attract more paying attendees, such a
> what we have sometimes called "tourists", with no real
> expectation that they will do work, because it increases the
> income.
> 
> Still better than building a funding structure based on sale of
> publications, however :-(
> 
>   john
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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