Commenting is already an action taken, so we thank who made effort to bring the points forward. I always add my comments even though I had given no title. However, thoes folks that have been given titles by the IETF I think they should do actions more regarding this diversity issue as Mr.Hallam-baker requesting. I never give excuses to managers, but appreciate all their efforts and patients for the community :-)
AB On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Peter Saint-Andre <stpe...@stpeter.im>wrote: > On 6/19/13 8:32 AM, Dave Crocker wrote: > > On 6/19/2013 5:35 AM, Dave Cridland wrote: > >> Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: > >> There is a real problem with accountability and transparency in the IETF > >> constitution which was designed by a bunch of old boys to maintain > >> control in their own hands. Peter is a member of the IETF establishment > >> so of course he sees no structural problem. > >> PSA's been an AD, yes, but: > > > > > > Forgive me, but you just responded to a rather unpleasant ad hominem. > > > > We should not sustain such threads. > > My point, poorly expressed though it was, is that it's not productive > for us all to wait from word on high before taking positive action. > Members of the IESG, IAB, IOAC, or any other "official" body are just > folks who are temporarily serving the community in a defined role. If we > want to change the culture of our community with respect to diversity, > it's better for us to work to encourage, nurture, and mentor particular > individuals. > > My apologies for the extremely egregious manner in which I stated the > point. It was not directed personally at Mr. Hallam-Baker, but at all of > us who talk and don't take action -- myself very much included. > > Peter > > -- > Peter Saint-Andre > https://stpeter.im/ > > >