On Jun 19, 2013, at 2:27 AM, Patrik Fältström <p...@frobbit.se> wrote:

> And do not let me get started on EPP or Whois issues... ;-)

Actually, let's let you get started. :-)

Part of the problem you are seeing with the lack of RFCs desired by ICANN is 
that it is now harder to get an individual submission standards track RFC than 
it was ten years ago. ADs want more more done in WGs so they get more review 
before the document comes to IETF last call.

But there is no EPP WG. And WEIRDS is supposed to only be forward-looking, not 
dealing with practices with the current protocol.

The problem is that the IETF is saying two different things to ICANN: let us do 
the work, and we don't really care about the work you need done because it is 
about old protocols.

The Applications Area Directors have done a good job of spinning up short-lived 
WGs for narrow topics, and letting single-topic documents come to AppsAWG, but 
ICANN's needs are greater than that.

In the past, it was easy for a small group to put together a small protocol 
spec and get it on standards track if it was a follow-on to an existing 
protocol, but that is much more difficult now. ICANN needs it to be easier. The 
IETF should support them in that.

--Paul Hoffman

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