On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 4:03 PM, <l.w...@surrey.ac.uk> wrote: > clearly, all IETF meetings should be in Cape Town, Wellington, or Perth, > because more time in the air means more time without interruption where > drafts can be read before the meeting. > > quiet time on a plane can be productive time.
Then I would suggest Antarctica as permanent location for future IETF meetings. :-) Maybe the only drawback is hotel availability, but nothing that a handful of tents and sleeping bags cannot cure... Also, penguins are cute :-) > > Lloyd Wood > http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/ > > > ________________________________________ > From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mark > Nottingham [m...@mnot.net] > Sent: 31 May 2013 10:59 > To: ietf Discussion > Subject: Time in the Air > > In an attempt to inject some data into the discussion, I wrote a bit of code > that figures out how much time, given your home city, you would have spent in > the air if you'd attended all IETF meetings since IETF74 (i.e., from 2009 > onwards). > > The first column is the "home" airport. > > The second column is the great circle time between the home airport and the > nearest large airport to the IETF meeting, hhh:mm. This doesn't count things > like transit time, taxiing, takeoff and landing overhead, indirect routing, > etc. As such, this is an ideal number; the only way to achieve anything close > to it is to have a private jet (with exceptional range). > > The third column is the time (hhh:mm) using the shortest-time routing on a > travel booking engine. This is first-takeoff-to-last-landing time. > > Both numbers assume round trip between "home" and the IETF airports. > > SFO 204:10 282:04 // San Francisco > BOS 197:42 297:38 // Boston > ATL 205:44 297:28 // Atlanta > ANC 197:12 345:54 // Anchorage > LHR 198:02 249:44 // London > FRA 202:10 255:22 // Frankfurt > FCO 223:52 283:04 // Rome > SVO 211:28 287:14 // Moscow > TLV 264:12 334:22 // Israel > DXB 293:26 344:34 // Dubai > NRT 259:00 314:38 // Tokyo > HKG 296:38 359:22 // Hong Kong > BLR 332:28 448:24 // Bangalore > MEL 450:28 556:04 // Melbourne > AKL 442:24 569:04 // Auckland > JNB 414:30 498:22 // Johannesburg > EZE 411:10 522:56 // Buenos Aires > GIG 381:56 488:32 // Rio de Janeiro > > Draw your own conclusions, of course. > > One observation is that there's a 3+ days-in-the-air per year variance if > you're a full-time participant, depending on where you live. I.e., more than > one day-per-meeting difference, on average. In the air alone. > > Another is that, perhaps surprisingly, the "closest" homes to all meetings > are in Europe, not the US (at least by shortest-time routing). > > I can run other airports upon request, as well as make source available, but > will do so conservatively, so as not to incur the ire of the services I'm > (ab)using. > > Regards, > > P.S. The IETF airports chosen were: > > IETF_airports: [ > "ORL", > "ATL", > "YVR", > "CDG", > "TPE", > "YQB", > "PRG", > "PEK", > "AMS", > "LAX", > "HIJ", > "ARN", > "SFO" > ], > > -- > Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ > > >
