Indeed, there has already been some coordination between the groups, going
back about a year:
<http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/84/slides/slides-84-ecrit-0.pdf>
<http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-aboba-rtcweb-ecrit-00.txt>

So my read of the situation is much less dire than James's.  As I
understand it, the upshot of the initial coordination discussions is that
there's not a single, clear "RTCWEB+ECRIT" story.  Instead, there are a few
ways you can put them together.  In the short run, without upgrading PSAPs,
RTCWEB VoIP services can bridge RTCWEB signaling to ECRIT-compliant SIP,
either at the server, or at the client using something like
SIP-over-WebSockets.  In the long run, PSAPs can just advertise an RTCWEB
service like they would advertise a SIP service today (in LoST).  Neither
of these is incompatible with RTCWEB or ECRIT as they're being specified
today.

I expect there are probably some ECRIT considerations that aren't naturally
supported in RTCWEB.  Things like real-time text come to mind.  However, it
doesn't seem to me that there's gross incompatibility.

--Richard




On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 10:18 AM, John C Klensin <john-i...@jck.com> wrote:

>
>
> --On Saturday, May 25, 2013 10:10 +0300 Jari Arkko
> <jari.ar...@piuha.net> wrote:
>
> >...
> > I didn't know about the details of the emergency
> > communications situation. But it is always difficult to
> > balance getting something out early vs. complete. I know how
> > much pressure there is on the working groups to keep up with
> > things actually happening in the browsers and organisations
> > setting up to use this technology. Do you think the retrofit
> > will be problematic, and do you have a specific suggestion
> > about what should be included today?
>
> Jari,
>
> James will probably have a different answer and perspective, but
> I suggest that retrofits of security-sensitive features are so
> often problematic to make "always" not much of an exaggeration.
>
> I don't think there is any general solution to the "early vs.
> complete" tradeoff [1], nor, as long as we keep trying to deal
> with things as collections of disconnected pieces rather than
> systems, to the issues created by WGs with significant overlaps
> in either scope or technology.  What I think we can do is to be
> particularly vigilant to be sure that the two WGs are tracking
> and frequently reviewing each other's work.   At least RTCWEB
> and ECRIT are in the same area, which should make that
> coordination easier than it might be otherwise.
>
>    john
>
>
> [1] Watch for a note about this that I've been trying to
> organize for about two weeks and hope to finish and post this
> weekend.
>
>
>
>

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