you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. -- bob dylan we do not need measurements to know the ietf is embarrassingly non-diverse. it is derived from and embedded in an embarrassingly non-diverse culture.
we need to do what we can to remedy this. progress not perfection is our goal. measurement may be useful to see if we are having effect and/or what things have effect (meeting locales, size of cookies, ...). we should be asking the minorities and those struggling to particiate what we can do to help. randy
