Hi Melinda,

I certainly agree that there are challenges in getting those who work for 
smaller companies to participate in the IETF (for known reasons). I believe the 
IETF, however, does better than other organizations that have expensive 
membership fees. 

The country/regional participation is an interesting aspect. If you try to 
figure out whether the IESG / IAB leadership is dominated from US participation 
then the question is what do you take as a basis for that analysis.
You could, for example, take a look at Jari's draft/RFC statistics (see 
http://www.arkko.com/tools/allstats/countrydistr.html). The stats say that 
50.69% of the authors come from the US.

The IETF leadership has more than 50% of persons coming from the US. 

The question is, however, whether this is a good measurement to consider all 
the published documents as a basis for such an analysis. Also, if you look 
through the list you see Henning as the first person in that list. Henning is 
German. Mark Townsley as another example, can be found in the data about 
authors from France. Mark, like Henning, just moved to another country. 

Ciao
Hannes

On Mar 11, 2013, at 1:32 PM, Melinda Shore wrote:

> On 3/11/2013 9:23 AM, Ted Hardie wrote:
>> So, I said this once before on a previous thread, but I still believe that
>> this analysis is wrong.  From an organiational perspective, the aim of 
>> fostering
>> diversity isn't "political correctness", it's enabling a larger pool
>> of candidates.
> 
> I tend to think of it as an effort to remove bias from the
> system, which is probably consistent with the notion of
> enabling more candidates.  I think that right now there's
> a far narrower set of perspectives being represented among
> the I* than among the IETF participants.  That's necessarily
> the case when the I* is 30-odd people and there are several
> thousand participants, but notably lacking among the
> leadership are people who don't work for large manufacturers
> and people who have first-hand knowledge of network
> architectures and management practices in non-western
> countries.  I think that makes us weaker.
> 
> Melinda
> 
> 

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