I've got the last 2 decades of experience trying to deal with security on the 
network.

95% is dealing with the peculiarities of the "bolt-on"  after-thoughts.

I would much prefer seeing security  designed-in, with the flexibility to deal 
with
the future...

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From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of RJ Atkinson 
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Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:59 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: WG Review: Recharter of Hypertext Transfer Protocol Bis (httpbis)

On 23  Feb 2012, at 11:13 , Julian Reschke wrote:
> On 2012-02-22 18:01, RJ Atkinson wrote:
>> Security that works well and is practical to implement
>> needs to be designed-in, not bolted-on later.
>
> I would say: security needs to be orthogonal.

There are at least 2 decades of experience that
security has to be design-in, rather than bolted-on,
for it to work well -- and for it to be practical
to implement.

I hear that you don't agree, but the IETF experience
on this specific point really is quite clear.  Add-on
security doesn't work.

Yours,

Ran

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