Wow, I find this whole email thread shocking. 

Given the text explanation you get of F and L visa from the embassy web site, 
which Mary quoted below, I have a very hard time seeing how anyone comes to the 
conclusion that L (tourist) visa is the right visa for an IETF meeting. I 
believe the the explanations that you are likely to get away with it, but I 
have a very hard time believing it is not breaking the law. I'd be fascinated 
to hear the reasoning of people who think it is legal. 


On Aug 24, 2010, at 9:21 AM, Mary Barnes wrote:

> The note posted suggested that if you were planning to sightsee a day or more 
> before or after the meeting that a tourist visa might be sufficient. 
> 
> However, I prefer to err on the side of caution in this situation since it 
> clearly states on the chinese visa website:
> 
> Business Visa (F Visa) is issued to an alien who is invited to China for a 
> visit, an investigation, a lecture, to do business, scientific-technological 
> and culture exchanges, short-term advanced studies or internship for a period 
> of no more than six months.
> 
> versus
> 
> Tourist Visa (L Visa) is issued to an alien who comes to China for 
> sightseeing or visiting family members or friends or for other personal 
> affairs.
> 
> Personally, I'd rather not risk any problems in this area. Since, my company 
> is sponsoring to attend the meeting, I don't consider that I'm going to China 
> for "personal affairs".  In my experience, you're typically asked why you're 
> visiting a country and sometimes the questioner wants more details as to what 
> you'll be doing. So, unless you have figured out a detailed sightseeing 
> itinerary in advance, I would think it's possible you could easily answer 
> that question unsatisfactorily.
> 
> Just my opinion,
> Mary. 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Andrew G. Malis <agma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is there a consensus that a tourist visa is sufficient to attend the
> IETF from the US?
> 
> Thanks,
> Andy
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