My point is that I am unable to have any characterization whatsoever since
nobody has ever told me the reason that the changes did not go ahead.

And since I have asked for reasons in a plenary and never got any statement
that was not phrased in the passive voice, I don't think it is unfair to
describe the decision as having been made in private.

If the history is not confidential then I want to know what it was.
Otherwise I don't see why it is inaccurate to describe the process as top
down.

If the process is going to be described as consensus based and bottom up
then at a minimum the people who take the decision have to be prepared to
state their reasons.



On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Russ Housley <[email protected]> wrote:

> I strongly disagree with this characterization.  In my view, too many
> things got bundled together, and the thing that was unacceptable too the
> whole bundle down.
>
> Russ
>
> On 6/24/2010 2:52 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
> > Last time the reforms were blocked without the IETF at large even
> > knowing who was responsible. It was a decision the IESG took in private
> > as if it only affected them and they were the only people who should
> > have a say. So much for bottom up organization.
>



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