> % in my experience, plenty of bad ideas survive such "vetting".
> % but those who bring them to IETF still expect the rubber stamp.
> %
> 
> True. The point being that the IETF is becoming a "rubber-stamp" for
> work already complete. 

outsiders have tried to treat IETF like a rubber stamp for years; this
is nothing new.  but in my experience, IETF doesn't function that way - 
working groups feel quite free to change or discard earlier work.
(some are even hostile to earlier work)

Keith

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