On 1/28/25 10:19 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 10:08 AM Michael Thomas <m...@mtcc.com> wrote:

    One of the earlier drafts of the charter was very, very open ended
    about
    the scope of work which concerned me. This version seems to be more
    limited, but it's not explicit that the objectives are the actual
    scope
    of the work. Are they? If not, what is the actual scope? How do
    chairs
    decide?


So you're looking for a "No other work is considered to be within this charter" statement?  If not, I'm not clear what you're asking for and request some text you'd like to see added or changed.

I'm asking if that was actually the intention.

But in your objectives if that was the intention, you could make it explicit to say that "The scope of the working group's work will address the following objectives..." or something like that, so the chairs can refer back to the charter to not take on new work.

That is, suppose somebody wrote a draft to upgrade cipher suites. In scope or not?

    I will also note that the "back scatter" problem is mentioned, but is
    not in the objectives. That suits me if the objectives are the scope,
    but it makes it an orphan.


I think the third objective is the intended solution to the backscatter problem, and one of the proponents should feel free to either correct me or confirm.

That wasn't obvious to me, you might add some text that links the two. And "annotations in transit"... annotations of what? Also "intended"? What might be considered "unintended"?

Also about mutations: you should probably be more precise that it's mutations to the signed canonical text of a particular signature. That is, just adding a received: header doesn't need to be considered.

One last thing: the charter seems like it's dancing around with whether to just upgrade DKIM or do something new. DKIM explicitly allows tag upgrades by telling evaluators they MUST ignore unknown tags. I think we should make explicit that adding a new tag is not a reason to create something new. That is, adding a new tag to a DKIM signature block is not "disturbing" the existing ecosystem.


Mike
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