On 11/20/24 06:43, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 9:11 AM Dave Crocker <d...@dcrocker.net> wrote:

    On 11/6/2024 6:54 PM, Wei Chuang wrote:
    "message algebra
    
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-gondwana-dkim2-modification-alegbra-00>"

    This topic has been a point of fascination for some years.  It is,
    indeed, attractive.

    It is also a research topic, absent a body of experience showing
    it works on essentially all email traffic.

    That's not meant to argue against it, but rather to place the
    construct in an area of unknown reliability, efficacy and
    usability, so that there is effort to move to a place of
    engineering knowns.

Indeed, I remain puzzled by the number of times the idea has been dismissed as unworkable in contrast to the excitement it appears to be generating today.

That said, it's my assumption that this renewed effort will include a significant period of running something like this at scale with appropriate interoperability testing to verify its efficacy before sending it to the Standards Track, much as we did with DKIM itself.


I called out this recurrence in my response to one of Bron's separate threads, and it is part of why I want to see this project - with so much enthusiasm and so many engineering resources promised - explore the topic thoroughly.

Where between 50 and 100% will the percentage of expressible message alterations fall, and according to whose corpus? Will we have a great enough diversity of contributors to make sure we aren't missing important use cases?

Just the project of cataloging common message alterations seems like a very useful exercise. (Not because I can't draw up a list, but because I want to see the ones I would miss that other people have observed.)

--S.

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