I asked yesterday for commentary on the drafts as an attempt to move the discussion forward so we could discuss the shape and scope of the current proposals. I would politely request that you confine discussions of the shape and scope to that thread, rather than staring yet a different thread.
laura > On 24 Mar 2023, at 23:57, Michael Thomas <m...@mtcc.com> wrote: > > > And yes, that means spam filters and the rest of the ecosystem around email > in which DKIM operates. As in, why exactly are we here? Why can't industry > groups come up with their own solutions? We either document it now, or argue > about it later especially when it becomes plain that there is no protocol > solution and that a BCP is the only possible positive outcome of this > rechartering. An outcome that is specifically allowed for in the charter I > will note. It need not be exhaustive, but it would be good to document some > of the constraints on the solution space as well as what has been tried and > failed. x= is a perfect example. > > Also: there has not been any consensus that the shape and scope of the two > current proposals is correct or sufficient. We are far from the point that > this is just wordsmithing imo, appeals to the contrary not withstanding. > > Somebody brought up that this could turn into a research project. Frankly I > think that is highly likely the case and is why rechartering was so > problematic. Since M3AAWG can't figure it out with lots of inside the > industry information, what makes anybody think the wider community would have > better insight which is not speculative because it has been tested and known > to work? It speaks volumes that they didn't have a solution in mind and bring > it to IETF to vet in the wider community. That sure sounds like a research > project to me. > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf-dkim mailing list > Ietf-dkim@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-dkim -- The Delivery Experts Laura Atkins Word to the Wise la...@wordtothewise.com Email Delivery Blog: http://wordtothewise.com/blog
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